RL13 - Edit the 2007 season before you get jumped on it was won by Leeds.

It's generally all sour grapes.

I still go to as many league games as I can because I enjoy watching rugby league. It's sport it's entertainment and I like to go. I know quite well one of the Leeds players who assures me that they don't aim to be poor at the start of the year and they want to win every game, they do aim to peak in September and as a result of training might be a bit off the mark but they do NOT sit around and think we will aim for 5th as its easy. People know the rules and Leeds are the rightful champions.

No because it was Saints and Leeds who finished above them not Wigan

Both sides took it on the chin, nuckled down and dominated the subsequent years (well ignoring 2006 in Leeds' case)

I agree with going back to this.

Still,Leeds could finish 5th again in that system and if they perform like they did in the last 2 playoff series, just as easily walk away with the crown.

Leeds know what it takes to get through the playoffs and win a grand final.Its up to the other teams to raise to that level when it Matters also.Which they have been unable to do the last 2 years.

No amount of tweaking with the system will change this fact.

Thanks for that HIM. Interesting to compare.

Whilst we're on the subject (sort of) - is any one of age to know why they dispensed with the play off system in 1974-75? What is merely down the creation of two divisions, bearing in mind that division one still had 16 teams? Was the championship final as it was then, no longer the great pinnacle of the season?

The NRL is far more competitive though. A team that finishes 5th in the NRL (not that anyone has won it from 5th) has had a better season than a team who finishes 5th in SL. I don't think anybody--not even Leeds themselves--would claim Leeds had a good domestic season.

Yeah, a team from 5th in the NRL can call themselves champions. The NRL is more competitive isn’t it, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Where a team from 4th or 5th or even 8th can get in the play-offs and get to the Grand Final, and then who knows, anyone can beat anyone, teams qualify for the play-offs but need to win the play-offs to be champions

Not like SL, which isn’t competitive, where only the top teams win and it is disgusting that a team from 4th or 5th, god forbid 8th, get to a Grand Final, it makes the whole season pointless. Why bother with the rest of the season if you only need to win the play-offs to be champions.


after all [iA team that finishes 5th in the NRL (not that anyone has won it from 5th) has had a better season than a team who finishes 5th in SL[/i

The difference in quality between the respective leagues is irrelevant. The argument put forward is that a team winning from low in the playoffs with a "low" percentage of wins "ruins" the regular season. That has categorically not been the case in the NRL where teams have won the Grand Final from lower in the league more often than in SL and with teams with lower win % than Leeds.

What part of this discussion is confusing some of the idiots on here?

Which team or How a team wins the GF and becomes Champions is not an issue to anyone ..... 14 teams looked at the rules, and Leeds played the overall game better than anyone else, and so are rightly hailed as Champions. The disturbing fact of the matter is teams (not just Leeds) are tailoring their season around qualifying for, and being at their peak for, the playoffs. But it doesn't say on my season ticket "Warning: You will be charged full price for ALL games, regardless of whether your team put any effort into the game or not."

So, if the team are only going to try in 20 of the 27 games, how about instead of putting 100% of my financial effort into every game by buying a season ticket for £240+, I (and many others) will choose to put 70% financial effort into paying to watch? ..... Is that OK? If league games aren't that important to clubs (and some very clearly aren't) then why should I pay to watch them all? And it's not like the clubs need the money, is it? The game is obviously swimming in excess cash!!!

Please dont buy one then and encourage a few thousand more to do likewise, them maybe another team can take your teams place as revenue plummets.
Then lets hope if it is my team I do not become as smug as you.