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Quote: SmokeyTA "Vastman in losing an argument and flailing around insulting people,

my, my isnt that a surprise'"


Its not an argument, its a discussion, thus people have different thoughts and opinions to you.....just deal with it! you are like a dog with a bone! does it urke you that not everybody is in agreement with you?

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Quote: SimonBarrett "Its not an argument, its a discussion, thus people have different thoughts and opinions to you.....just deal with it! you are like a dog with a bone! does it urke you that not everybody is in agreement with you?'"


i do have a low tolerance for idiots, so maybe.

But im not sure what urke means so i cant say for sure

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I'm sure many other posters from different clubs are getting bored of this but….

Personally, I’ve already gone on record highlighting my disappointment of this signing and any other import above the original 8, which is still too many but they were the initial set limits.

I have no objection of an Antipodean coming to England with little or no NRL experience as long as they contribute to the league and club sufficiently. For example, I would have Demetriou in a Trinity side above Matt King every time.

Unfortunately with a lack of funding, the choice of using finances to retain the youngsters on the scholarship scheme (who still remain in RL, just at different clubs, no credence for Trinity on the development while under this scheme I see) and insuring a competitive team is put together is a much tighter call then at others clubs with significantly more resources available to them. Whether that’s through success, a large fan base or obtained through having a supremely wealthy backer it’s still there.

Wakefield have, in the past, been guilty of neglecting the youth side of things to remain in SL. Relegation ended three years ago. Since Kear has been at the club great strides have been taken to reverse this situation and structures are in place to improve the standard of player coming through the academy. This will bare fruit in time as long as the club are able to hold on to the talent. Many things will affect this, the club need to improve attendances, sponsorship and most importantly, secure a new stadium in order to maximise the potential that is at Wakefield.

Finally, for Marsdengiant, what is Michael Korkidas if not an NRL reserve grader with little experience in that competition.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i do have a low tolerance for idiots, so maybe.

But im not sure what urke means so i cant say for sure'"


"Vastman in losing an argument and flailing around insulting people,

my, my isnt that a surprise"

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Quote: SmokeyTA "im arguing that that is the case, and criticising them for taking the easy route to the detriment of the sustainability of the league as a whole

Wintertstein may well light up the league, how would that be detrimental to the competition?


it should be tough cookies, Wakefield have shown that without severe penalties, they wont look to youngsters, or brits, this is their 11th overseas player for the year, they have to do better

We've looked to youngsters plenty of times, Blaymire, Bibb, Pitts, Murphy, George, the March twins, Ellis, Westwood, Fox, Feather, McDonald, Stephenson I could go on all have been given their opportunities at Wakey. Just because you don't think most of em are good enough has no bearing on the fact that what I say is true but you just don't like it and don't like being wrong. Why penalise a club that has brought through so much talent?



well thats more than most of your fans who seem happy to watch a team of antipodeans but why is it next season? which is you're twelfth in SL, it seems a pretty arbitrary point at which to start demanding they cut down on overseas players! why not this season, or last?'"


The supporters pay to be entertained, whether its a Samoan, Tongan or Brit who is doing the entertaining is another matter. Who says we're happy with the signing? Mr know it all does lol! What do you know what we're thinking. I'll reserve judgement on the signing but as tits like you and Marsden try to slate the club I love then its only natural that I and others will suport and stand up for them. Next season I would not expect the services of Henderson (who incidentally is actually a Brit as he was born in Torquay), Martin and one of Blanch or Peterson to be retained. Also there is the possibility that Drew may well retire. JD has been over here that long that I'm sure he could claim British citizenship and Obst can't be far off either. Its not all as easy as you make out as many of our overseas players were already under contract at the club for this season and the club cannot just release a player for being foreign, thats called unfair dismissal. Structures are in place to improve our youth set up, but as with everything this takes time. If we get our new ground (news out in April) then things will improve dramatically as we will be able to attract better players to better facilities. Crowds will rise thus increasing revenue enabling us to invest more in youth development and also leaving us more money to retain the youth players we have developed.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "I'm sure many other posters from different clubs are getting bored of this but….

Personally, I’ve already gone on record highlighting my disappointment of this signing and any other import above the original 8, which is still too many but they were the initial set limits.

I have no objection of an Antipodean coming to England with little or no NRL experience as long as they contribute to the league and club sufficiently. For example, I would have Demetriou in a Trinity side above Matt King every time.

Unfortunately with a lack of funding, the choice of using finances to retain the youngsters on the scholarship scheme (who still remain in RL, just at different clubs, no credence for Trinity on the development while under this scheme I see) and insuring a competitive team is put together is a much tighter call then at others clubs with significantly more resources available to them. Whether that’s through success, a large fan base or obtained through having a supremely wealthy backer it’s still there.

Wakefield have, in the past, been guilty of neglecting the youth side of things to remain in SL. Relegation ended three years ago. Since Kear has been at the club great strides have been taken to reverse this situation and structures are in place to improve the standard of player coming through the academy. This will bare fruit in time as long as the club are able to hold on to the talent. Many things will affect this, the club need to improve attendances, sponsorship and most importantly, secure a new stadium in order to maximise the potential that is at Wakefield. '"


well thats closer to the truth than any of your fellow fans have got

Quote: Khlav Kalash "Finally, for Marsdengiant, what is Michael Korkidas if not an NRL reserve grader with little experience in that competition.'"


Michael Korkidas is , plain and simple

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not sure who i insulted there fella

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not sure who i insulted there fella'"
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whoever you were calling an idiot....the same insult that vastman used by the way!

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Quote: Uptoncat "The supporters pay to be entertained, whether its a Samoan, Tongan or Brit who is doing the entertaining is another matter. Who says we're happy with the signing? Mr know it all does lol! What do you know what we're thinking. I'll reserve judgement on the signing but as tits like you and Marsden try to slate the club I love then its only natural that I and others will suport and stand up for them. Next season I would not expect the services of Henderson (who incidentally is actually a Brit as he was born in Torquay), Martin and one of Blanch or Peterson to be retained. Also there is the possibility that Drew may well retire. JD has been over here that long that I'm sure he could claim British citizenship and Obst can't be far off either. Its not all as easy as you make out as many of our overseas players were already under contract at the club for this season and the club cannot just release a player for being foreign, thats called unfair dismissal.'"


they could however have not offered them a contract extension, not signed them in the first place,

it isnt supposed to be easy, you are at the top level, get over your small club syndrome and rather than moan about how people are demanding more of your club, get angry that this fantastic opportunity you have isnt being made the most of, this maybe the only chance you get at having 3 years to give the youngsters and the brits a shot, whilst of the most part your stadium issue is wait and see, everything else isnt,

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "

Finally, for Marsdengiant, what is Michael Korkidas if not an NRL reserve grader with little experience in that competition.'"


When we signed him he had extensive 1st grade rugby.

If the Giants signed a NRL reserve grader - no matter how good - I would not defend the club.

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Quote: SimonBarrett "
whoever you were calling an idiot....the same insult that vastman used by the way!'"


i wasnt calling anyone an idiot, i was saying i have a low tolerance for them

i will apologise to Mr hypothetical, but in this hypothesis he is monkey with spoons for arms so i dont think he cares

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Quote: Uptoncat " Who says we're happy with the signing? .'"


The fact that so many of you want to defend having a high no of overseas players + signing a reserve grader from the NRL suggests support. This after 10yrs in SL.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "When we signed him he had extensive 1st grade rugby.

If the Giants signed a NRL reserve grader - no matter how good - I would not defend the club.'"


Believe me, not many are exactly ecstatic about the imminent arrival of Winterstein, but, however, are grateful for a much needed increase in numbers. Korkidas is a reserve grade NRL player. Just because he has extensive experience in SL doesn’t alter this fact. So, oh dear, even the Giants are signing a NRL reserve grade quality import even with their wealthy backer and excellent youth structures. Do you not think that this is a disgrace?!

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i do have a low tolerance for idiots, so maybe.

But im not sure what urke means so i cant say for sure'"


You must hate yourself then...

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Quote: Marsdengiant "so I am not worth one of your lunches...Oh dear
Still not answering my question.

Please justify Hudds getting rid of a promising young BRITISH coach in favour of another Aussie hack.

I think it is a disgrace and a backward step for our game - please discuss.

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