So which three clubs are fave for relegation over 2014&15?

I can see some serious player signings going on in next few months, salary cap breach anyone?

One can only hope one of the so called big clubs has a mare of a season, would be very funny to see the rfl sweating at the loss of a Wigan or Leeds!

More likely to be Saints at this time.

I'd say this is the signed death warrant for London. The only question is which of Salford, Wakefield or Castleford are also ejected. Salford's signings for next season should strengthen them, but it'll be a bear fight between those three. This might explain why Castleford are playing hard-to-get with Salford over Chase. He could be the difference between which of them are booted out next year.

Has it been confirmed that it will be the bottom two teams that go down?? 2014 will be the third year of the licence period, so effectively the promotion and relegation system won't be introduced until the following year. I'm not so sure that the teams in 13th and 14th will simply be the ones to be relegated. Looking at this from the RFL- www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/about_t ... reviewfaqs - which states, "The RFL Board will also determine which clubs participate in Super League and the mechanism by which clubs move from one competition to another." leads me to believe that who goes down next year might not be determined simply by on-field performance....

Has it been confirmed that it will be the bottom two teams that go down?? 2014 will be the third year of the licence period, so effectively the promotion and relegation system won't be introduced until the following year. I'm not so sure that the teams in 13th and 14th will simply be the ones to be relegated. Looking at this from the RFL- www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/about_t ... reviewfaqs - which states, "The RFL Board will also determine which clubs participate in Super League and the mechanism by which clubs move from one competition to another." leads me to believe that who goes down next year might not be determined simply by on-field performance....

Why have you not included Widnes here? Not saying they should be but curious as to why you think they are safe?

HKR Salford Widnes Cas london and Wakefield will be a great comp next year

London may be dead anyway.Watching the Tony Clubb interview on Boots 'n All was a singularly depressing experience - to hear the club captain effectively saying that it's time for the players to bail out on TV was incredible, but revealing as to how far we've sunk.

I fail to see how reducing super league to twelve clubs will improve anything.The clubs near the bottom will still be struggling to compete with the wealthier 'elite' clubs that are at the top of the league every year.It seems to me to be like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Less poor teams? Means less one sided boring pastings, more intensity due to higher level of opposition. Threat of relegation brings interest and also intensity, so every game means something.

The fact a proposal to return to a system we know doesn't work concerns me, if you are going to have P+R you need a bigger super league 14 teams 1 up 1 down 15/16 team super league 2 up 2 down so the gap between bottom and top is not too big a gulf to breach.
As for the 2 divisions splitting into 3, how does that work commercially?
you are either in the top fight fighting for trophy's getting on tv getting huge crowds increasing sponsorship or your not, how do you budget for which league your going to be in?

It's a fair point, and the honest answer is I simply forgot about Widnes. But yes, they're in that mix for the second spot in the bowl, waiting for the flush.

there is no second spot as there has to be 3 teams relegated next year to allow a championship side to come upmy info is that the widnes chairman was against this and voted against and warend that the teams that were cast aside would more than likely end up finished as a pro club the championship teams have bleated about this since day one but thats all they have done widnes invested in thr youth got everything in place to be a good pro club and now just before it finely bears fruit the could end up ditched so satisfiy one of the yo yo clubs who want a bit of cash for one season just to keep going P&R didnt work before a 12 team league did not work before so why should it work again maybe we should go back to winter rugby as well while we are at it

What does this do to solve any of the major issues which the game over here has? Seems to me the call for promotion and relegation got loud enough and now there has been a reaction to that.

My hairdresser, who's had a lot more experience of life than me, said last week that we're a poor country now, but we won't accept it, we just keep borrowing. What do we produce? There is only one answer in my opinion, and that's an United States of Europe, which is what most of the world want. Maybe that's why this is happening. That'll be good for RL, as no more 6 Nations RU. But they do say, "plus ça change, plus c'est la meme chose", so it might not be that beneficial to RL, but surely it won't hurt, especially if we go to a Team Europe, instead of the silly stuff of playing as England, France, Scotland etc. as we are doing.

Under franchising we'd be quite safe in that company. But in actual promotion and relegation you're right, it's going to be a bumfight.