You do realise that for the majority of Rugby Leagues history the champions have been crowned by winning Grand Finals!?

The only reason for moving to a first past the post system from 73-98 was to mimmick soccer.

Going to be fun on here if Cas win or don't win the GF.

If Hull don't win it, I really hope Cas do, ok some fans have gone over the top, but the majority of fans deserve some success and they have been good to watch this year.

Powell is still talking nonsense in what started off this thread.

In the interests of fairness/completeness, (take your pick), perhaps you, or another 'historian' could confirm how that pre-play off league was structured in the majority of our collective history?

What by saying finishing top is the truest test of being consistent over a whole season? Or last year Warrington were the best team and they finished top to prove it? Just because headline writers might splash controversial headlines doesn't mean Powell actually said that statement.

The only board we've abandoned is the one on RLFans.com and we all know why that is. Casforum is by far a better standard of chat than on here IMO and the move has been replicated by Salford and Saints fans as well.
Your tone Bren is imitated by most posters on here and I'm of the opinion that is the main reason why we don't get many new RL fans joining these boards. Everyone is fighting their own clubs corner but some want to take it further and it just isn't working on here anymore sadly.

A lot of it is down to a lack of moderation too compared with a few years ago. There's a noticeable lack of presence, and a lot of trolling, slagging matches/bickering, insults etc go unnoticed because there isn't an active enough moderating community to keep an eye on everything. The Hull board for instance have 5 mods, 3 of which I can't recall seeing post in over a year.

Edit:
"wolfinwidnes", the designated mod for the VT, last visited 18 months ago. It's not rocket science is it, an active moderating community helps facilitate genuine debate, which surely in-turn encourages people to visit/post and drive traffic for the site?

I much less inclined to post on here these days.
Moderation is non existent, meaning the likes if the faux Frenchman more or less derail every thread with drivel.

P1sses me off we win our first trophy in quite sometime and all most of rugby league family can do is put it down.

Aye I bet Cas fans have never put down other teams successes in the past have they.

we had first past the post and it was regarded has the winners of the league and we also had play offs 1v8 2v 7 and so on if I remember right my team HKR were the first team to win the league and the play of

Oh give it a rest you're sounding pathetic now. What do you want exactly your not the first team to win the league! Most of us don't support Cas you do know that don't you? We only have a limited interest in their well being and that of their fans.

You've done well, well done - what more do you want

PS: Jeez I hope you don't win the final now else we'll all be expected to crawl on our hands and knees in homage.

Brilliant post, could have wrote that word for word myself - i was over the moon when we won it, still remember the night fondly, this less than 20 years after we were saved from oblivion - again, fck em - let us who have suffered watching our teams enjoy our moments however little they mean to others !!

I think most people are pleased for Cas and have been benevolent with praise. Ok a few Leeds & Wakey fans are a bit begrudging but given they've not beaten Cas for years there's going to be a bit off frustration and bitterness.

Clown shoes Vastman has probably not slept for a week given how consumed with Cas he invariably is.

"This ones going to come back and haunt you and I can't wait to be the ghost "

Vastgobs response to a wakey fans prediction at the start of the season that cas for the LLS...he did have wakey in the bottom 4 so i suppose he could bite back that he was on about that not happening.

I hope you realise that local rivalry and bragging right's apart, vastmans bitterness and sarcastic comments' and his hatred of all things Cas are not the views of most Wakefield fans, you've every right to bask in the glory of your teams achievement and if you go on to win the GF it will be well deserved.