even i'd laugh at that...





i had a cracking row with a saints fan during the world cup in which a called wellens every name under the sun,the saints fan said i would'nt call him too is face, i said i would but i'd run away...he would'nt catch me, and i've got a dodgy knee

true







nowhere near the truth. wellens is nowhere near the class of wesser and especially luke patten.







a lot of decent super league players could definately play in the nrl, it would be great to see a few more out here, even if it just for a couple of years.

By the looks of it Gleeson will be out there next year.

Shame because it'll be hard to replace him. Talk of Joel Monaghan but he's not in the same stratosphere as a centre.

Where is Gleeson going?

He has one of the worst try scoring records at Test level against the Southern Hemisphere sides ever.

Ordinary could be his middle name and if he could have two name unfit might be the next.

He's asked for a release we are led to believe at the end of this season.

The local paper did a bit of an interview with him mid way through last year.

I'm guessing you don't see a lot of him to be honest because while he isn't quite as quick as gasnier or as strong as Inglis put him in a 2 on 2 situation in a tight space 95% of the time a try will be scored.

If you don't rate him fair enough but I watch him and Matt King (who was rated in Aus pretty highly) week in week out in the same team. King isn't fit to lace Gleesons boots.

I've argued this before and I'll do it again, the two competitions are almost completely different in style and nature.



I Accept that NRL is a higher standard competition than Super League, but people need to understand that being a superstar in one competition doesn't necessarily mean that you will be able to cut in the other.



There may be exceptions to this rule for players like Darren Lockyer etc.

But there are numerous examples of players who have been superb in the NRL being unable to make an impact In the Super League.



There is every reason to believe that the same would be true Of Super League players.

I bet a lot of it comes down to playing and training with confidence in an environment you're used to.

Why has Monaghan turned into a player that can't, well, play. I doubt he's training poorly. Probably a confidence thing.

likely to be souths



spoke to him during the world cup and he said he was coming to the nrl next year

A lot of Australian players can not cope or handle the Northern England Towns.

Its a culture that is miles away from anything they can relate to.



Its hard for players like Monaghan and King that have been transported to teams where they supposed Stars that have to do it all with average talent around them.

Barrett had enough after one year

St Helens own Lyon said it was average standard and left is Man of Steel trophy behind when he left.

yes but part of it is also poor coaching as well vs NRL.



imagine matty king going from bellamy to paul cullen



poor kid.



or mongahan from hasler to cullen.