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Quote: RoyBoy29 "In a French Super League perhaps. As it stands Catalan are proving they do not belong where they are.'"


Correct. eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: sanjunien "Inevitably.

Cats and TO13 will be playing in a Super League of one form or another, it's just a case of when....'"


I actually agree with you.
What is ultimately disappointing is that nobody is open enough to say this and it would make more sense to find a way of including Toulouse and Toronto in SL.
Maybe "we" should expand have a 14 club top flight and exempt Catalan, Toulouse and Toronto from relegation.
After all their sole reason for being in the "European" competition is to play in SL we may as well just get used to the idea.

Clearly, these clubs aren't really viable outside SL, so why not just get on with having them in the top flight and the game can then benefit from it's international flavour. a046.gif

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "In a French Super League perhaps. As it stands Catalan are proving they do not belong where they are.'"


I can't readily see what fifteen years of Super league rugby league (2 years for Paris and 13 for Catalans) has done for rugby league in France. Can anybody quantify the benefits to French RL for me, please?

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Quote: Alan "I can't readily see what fifteen years of Super league rugby league (2 years for Paris and 13 for Catalans) has done for rugby league in France. Can anybody quantify the benefits to French RL for me, please?'"

There are now considerably more French players in Super League than before. As there are only 2 fully professional rugby league leagues in the world, this benefits French RL.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "There are now considerably more French players in Super League than before. As there are only 2 fully professional rugby league leagues in the world, this benefits French RL.'"


How many French players are in SL now Jean ?

In 2016 Catalans had less home grown players that any other club in SL
https://www.thestatszone.com/super-leag ... as-players
Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "There are now considerably more French players in Super League than before. As there are only 2 fully professional rugby league leagues in the world, this benefits French RL.'"


How many French players are in SL now Jean ?

In 2016 Catalans had less home grown players that any other club in SL
https://www.thestatszone.com/super-leag ... as-players


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Quote: Alan "I can't readily see what fifteen years of Super league rugby league (2 years for Paris and 13 for Catalans) has done for rugby league in France. Can anybody quantify the benefits to French RL for me, please?'"


It's not helped their national team, that's for sure. That was the initial propaganda about having Catalans placed in SL.....WHAT A JOKE !
We signed 2 of their players, one a french international, who they released to make room for their overseas players.

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How many overseas players have Leigh signed over the last 3 or 4 years?

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Quote: The Reason "How many French players are in SL now Jean ?

In 2016 Catalans had less home grown players that any other club in SL

Should you include French players who are currently playing for English clubs or, doesn't this suit your agenda ?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "How many overseas players have Leigh signed over the last 3 or 4 years?'"


a helluva lot/too many ....and your point being ? Surely any French player wants to play for Catalans, agreed if they are TOP DRAWER like Escare, Fages then they will struggle to keep hold of them, etc One of our best players last season was Antoni Maria, who we signed from Catalans. We wanted to keep him, but he returned to them. He has only played twice for them this season. Like a lot of French lads, he would be better off at Toulouse. Obviously Catalans do what's best for themselves, not their country/France.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "There are now considerably more French players in Super League than before. As there are only 2 fully professional rugby league leagues in the world, this benefits French RL.'"


Are you saying Les Catalans are now a feeder club for SL?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "How many overseas players have Leigh signed over the last 3 or 4 years?'"

Shed loads....but we're not discussing Leigh!
France RL is a basket case and Catalans haven't helped......the culture there is the same as an NRL retirement home......Toulouse will be the same if they head up.

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Quote: Call Me God "Shed loads....but we're not discussing Leigh!
France RL is a basket case and Catalans haven't helped......the culture there is the same as an NRL retirement home......Toulouse will be the same if they head up.'"


They won't be the same because the Toulouse coach, Sylvain Houles, wants a predominantly French team.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "They won't be the same because the Toulouse coach, Sylvain Houles, wants a predominantly French team.'"


Unfortunately having a predominantly French team,won't see them surviving SL. Should they get there,which is starting to look a little brickle at present.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "They won't be the same because the Toulouse coach, Sylvain Houles, wants a predominantly French team.'"

The French national side would be relegated from SL without a win........there is a massive difference between getting to SL and staying there.

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Quote: Call Me God "Shed loads....but we're not discussing Leigh!'"


Quote: Call Me God "a helluva lot/too many ....and your point being ?'"


The point is a club founded in 1878 (Leigh) can’t survive without signing overseas players, but a club founded in 2000 (Catalan) are expected to, according to some of you flatcappers.

Quote: Call Me God "Obviously Catalans do what's best for themselves, not their country/France.'"

Obviously Catalans do what’s best for themselves. Do Leigh do what’s best for themselves or what’s best for their country/England?

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