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| Quote: Bull Mania "I don't know the full details regarding that but Hearts also went into admin and were only deducted points.
I've no idea why Wakwfield were told they would be relegated if they went into admin and it is wrong if they were told that.
Deduct the appropriate amount of points depending on creditors been paid and let's move on.'"
The precedent has been set and we have to have consistency!
If Wakey faced relegation, so should Bulls and anyone else using admin as a way out of financial mismanagement.
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| Quote: Wadski "Bradford got six points and OFFERED to take half of central funds for two years. It wasn't forced - it was offered by your then Chairman.
Let's just hope that they don't OFFER the other half this time.'"
Yeah, this "offer" of half the central funds, it seems that it was pretty much offered in the same way your valuables are offered to a mugger.
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| Quote: dboy "The precedent has been set and we have to have consistency!
If Wakey faced relegation, so should Bulls and anyone else using admin as a way out of financial mismanagement.'"
You do realise Wakefield also benefitted from the RFL not setting a precedent. They seem to always forget that they stayed in SL when they went into admin and also got a license after they PROMISED to make improvements on their stadium. Reducing capacity is not improving it.
Anyway as far as I am aware the rules on admin are 6 points deduction reduced depending on willingness to pay creditors.
Have you any articles or statements regarding the RFL saying Wakey been told they would be relegated if they went into admin as I don't remember seeing anything. Cheers!
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| The chairman of the club announced it himself at a fans forum.
I would think a 6 point penalty would be appropriate, but how does that stand with the precedent set?
There has to be consistency. And remember, the RFL leadership announced that, as a part of the whole game review, that penalties for financial mismanagement should by MORE punitive!
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| Quote: dboy "The chairman of the club announced it himself at a fans forum.
I would think a 6 point penalty would be appropriate, but how does that stand with the precedent set?
There has to be consistency. And remember, the RFL leadership announced that, as a part of the whole game review, that penalties for financial mismanagement should by MORE punitive!'"
Fair enough. If there's nothing in the rules of kicking a team out though then it's not going to happen.
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I don't do Chinese whispers and Chairmen will say anything to supporters (look at the Bulls) so the Chinese whispers do not set a so call precedent.
The only Precedent set is the ones we have where clubs have been in Admin and they have always been points deductions.
There is a difference also between admin and liquidation.
I've checked the rules and there is nothing about administration that I can find.
But interestingly the appendicies are missing???
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/o ... s/sectione
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I don't do Chinese whispers and Chairmen will say anything to supporters (look at the Bulls) so the Chinese whispers do not set a so call precedent.
The only Precedent set is the ones we have where clubs have been in Admin and they have always been points deductions.
There is a difference also between admin and liquidation.
I've checked the rules and there is nothing about administration that I can find.
But interestingly the appendicies are missing???
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/o ... s/sectione
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| Don't the new company have to apply to take over the bulls licence? If this is the case then the application could be refused and the bulls relegated.
However the RFL appear to have propped them up until the eve of the new season to make any notion of demoting them out of the question.
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| Quote: dboy "
Why is it different for the Bulls?'"
Because apparently they have 'iconic status' (that means ramming bull mania down everyones throats and winning a few titles in the early 0's).
Apparently the game will be in oh such a terrible state if they weren't in super league, we just can't do without them.
Not a week goes by they aren't dragging rugby league into the new for all the wrong reasons.
GET RID.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Because apparently they have 'iconic status' (that means ramming bull mania down everyones throats and winning a few titles in the early 0's).
Apparently the game will be in oh such a terrible state if they weren't in super league, we just can't do without them.
Not a week goes by they aren't dragging rugby league into the new for all the wrong reasons.
GET RID.'"
There are no rules to say if a club enters admin they will be relegated. License rules aren't been applied this year and if they were then Wakey would be following us out with their stadium situation.
Still keep frothing at the mouth.
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| How many fans would turn up to watch the Bulls in the championship?
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| Can someone please point out the rule that states a team in administration should be demoted. Until you do, saying it does not make it so, no matter how much you want it.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Can someone please point out the rule that states a team in administration should be demoted. Until you do, saying it does not make it so, no matter how much you want it.'"
Unfortunately unless we're relegated to the pennine leagues the childish "iconic" posts will still appear. I don't think any bulls fan (apart from one or two) has an issue with points deduction.
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| They should be deducted points, which will increase chance of relegation and thus being demoted.
People don't literally mean they should be kicked out, but they should be penalised (which will increase the chances of the above happening).
When people say things like ''get rid''. What they mean is, penalise them, and let nature take it's course in getting rid.
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| There isn't a precedent set by which a club entering Administration are demoted but there probably would be if Wakefield had gone into Administration last August.
I don't want the Bulls kicked out of SL but whomever it was at the RFL who informed Wakefield that they'd be demoted if they went into Administration ought to explain their actions.
The precedent set is as stated earlier, if you enter Administration you are subject to a 6pt deduction which can be reduced to 4pts depending on your payment of the former company's creditors.
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| So that's settled then.
So whose next for administration.
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