Whether they respect him or not they should've followed the no booze rule. No excuses. The minute they did that they lost any credibility.

National coach is a thankless task but on the whole I think he's done an ok job. Certainly he's better than his predecessor and it was our best world cup since 1995. There's not any other candidates newly available AFIAK so let him continue.

Wait for the autobiographies

I can wait. Lots of "woe is me" and "why couldn't we have a drink to unwind after losing to Italy?"

No thanks.

So you're admitting you have no evidence then.

Also I'm not sure if be wasting my time reading an autobiography by Gareth Hock.

Listen Hock and Hardacker got exactly what they deserved but I'd have respected him more if he'd canned Graham and McIllorum too but getting rid of Graham would have been a huge decision because of his obvious talent.

Yes I'm going off a hunch to some extent but over time I know I'll be proved right, no one in contention right now will speak out, those dropped will be accused of sour grapes but there is definite unease in the camp.

Twas ever thus. There's always some dissent in the ranks. I can remember this sort of stuff going right back to the 1979 GB tour. Even ultra scary Mal Reilly had his fallouts with the likes of Hanley, Crooks, Goulding, Andy Gregory etc, read the biographies!

Even if your 'hunch' (or made up in your head as it's mor commonly known) and said players don't respect McNamara, who are the idiots in that situation? If the players can't put aside any feelings like that and actually abide to the rules set by the boss of the Mational team at the start of the WC campaign then they deserve all they get.

And again you haven't got a clue what actually happened with any of the players but are making things up yo suit your opinion of SM

We'll see in time

Well said, good to see some posters can see further than a narrow defeat to NZ and another close defeat against a rusty Australian team who hadn't had a game for weeks. This was a match that was there for the taking and realistically a win over them would have taken us to the final, but his squad/team selection meant he blew it. He's mumbled and stumbled all along the way since he got the job. His "dream partnership" of Saint Kev and Rangi, have also fumbled and stumbled along since he unleashed them onto the "stage" and he was too stubborn to admit it wasn't working, never would, and he just carried on regardless. Nothing he's done in the job has filled me with any confidence that he can take England (or any other team) forward, some poor (pathetic) performances against the exiles a few "walkover" wins over Ireland, Fiji etc coupled with a defeat against the mighty Italy are not really signs of a manager who knows what he's doing and is carrying England forward. Best for the future of England if he does the honourable thing and resigns, if not then either the powers that be get shut of him now or consign us to a few more years of "also rans" languishing behind our friends from down under.

Anyone who describes Sinfield as having "stumbled" through this World Cup removes all credibility from any other opinion they offer.

Next.

I was gonna go and buy it but I overlied and missed the bus into town.

Read it again Saint Kev/ Rangi, if you think that combination didn't fumble and stumble and worked well then you clearly have problems

Bloody hell, if you don't post how great Sinfield is on here the natives don't half get restless. Pity his halo slipped a bit on Saturday with the "ordinary kick" and missed tackle at the end, it sort of nullified his decent performance. Just saying it as I and many others saw it. Take care and have a good day.

I don't like the idea of the coach having a rolling one year contract.

If we are saying that players going drinking show that coaches are no good, then sack em all.

There are plenty of club coaches in fact all of them who have players who don't toe the line. There is not one coach in RL that has not had a naughty boy or set of naughty boys to deal with.

To put things into perspective, McNamara has been in charge for 4 autumn series (2010-2013) and has played Australia 4 times and NZ 3 times - 7 in total.

Brian Noble was in charge for 3 years (2004-2006) and played Australia 7 times (2 wins) and NZ 7 times (4 wins) - 14 in total.

You have a lot more chance of beating them if you play them more often. Even with a 4N campaign next year he will have played Aus/NZ 4 times less despite being in charge for 2 more seasons.