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| Quote: PONNER "Rugby League Live 2 doesn't count mate
I think you're confusing me with PONNER.
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| Quote: PONNER "They probably see each other on a regular basis so they aren't going to bag him are they. '"
Yet the first 4 didn't have to continually name him as captain, yet they did, and the last 3 continually selected him for England/GB.
Quote: PONNER " Funny how we never heard how good Sinfield was when Leeds were having their usual mid season dip.'"
Seriously? A Huddersfield fan? And you have the nerve to mock another team for having a mid-season dip?
Quote: PONNER "Quote: PONNER "Odd. I have very similar qualifications, except I'm still involved in coaching (and did some rep level in the past, and have a few players in the pros via me) but have almost exactly the opposite opinion to you on Sinfield. One of us must be wrong.'"
Rugby League Live 2 doesn't count mate
So nobody has qualifications except you? I would imagine a decent percentage of the RLFans membership has played or coached at some point, I also played and continue to coach.
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| I played, been watching for 23 years, coached/coaching service area,scholarship,Yorkshire, club and full time job, 10 years...I think Sinfield is outstanding!
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| Quote: PONNER "Can you imagine the media asking Lockers if Sinfield could hack it in the NRL and he laugh his rocks off? No cos our RL public have been brainwashed by the media into thinking he's the best thing since sliced bread and for Lockers to dis that would make him public enemy number 1. Lockers is too nice to say anything bad about SL. '" What about Wally Lewis who voted for Sinfield in the Golden Boot comp a few years back and pleaded with the English coaching setup to build a team around him? Was he also brainwashed by the British media into his opinion of Sinfield?
There is no way Leeds would have won either the 2011 or 2012 titles without Sinfield in the team and captaining them. He has single handedly changed the destination of the last two SL titles. If you can't see what Sinfield does to inspire and lead his team and dictate play then I can only worry for the teams coached by you.
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| Sam Burgess was on telly saying it was a good decision.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Sam Burgess was on telly saying it was a good decision.'"
Well that s it then. Case closed!
Seriously though, just because some don't agree with it, doesn't mean they are wrong does it? How many votes for different things in your lifetime has gone against your own vote? That doesn't make them wrong.
PS. imho I don't think he should of won it.
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| Dreadful decision orchestrated by the Yorkshire mafia controlling dedicated RL media in Britain. Sinfield is a very nice bloke and a decent player. GB? No! MOS, his peeers did not and have never recognised Kevin as the MOS. So at the age of 32, his peers have never awarded him the ultimate accolade. Yet, the Yorkshire media and some Yorkshire supporters seemingly know better.
Cameron Smith IMO was far more deserving. The ultimate contest in RL is Origin. Queensland are enjoying a record breaking domination of a true elite contest led series after series by Cam Smith. Smith plays in the elite domestic competition and is routinely recognised as the best 9 in Australia and accross the world. To lead the Storm to such a successful season after the club has had to be rebuilt and deal with the loss of several world class players.
British RL ought to be ashamed.
Perhaps the GB should have been terminated when Addidas pulled out
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| Quote: christopher "Martin Sadler has apparantly spoken to Darren Lockyer on the subject of MrSinfield, and Lockyer thinks he is well worthy if the award and rates him as high as any in the NRL.
I'll take Lockyers opinion over people on here.
Well done Kevin, shame RL fans seem to see the negatives in anything. It may also cause some Aussies to spit the dummy out which is always a good thing'"
I daresay Sinfields peers knew nothing either when they did not award him MOS
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| Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Dreadful decision orchestrated by the Yorkshire mafia controlling dedicated RL media in Britain. Sinfield is a very nice bloke and a decent player. GB? No! MOS, his peeers did not and have never recognised Kevin as the MOS. So at the age of 32, his peers have never awarded him the ultimate accolade. Yet, the Yorkshire media and some Yorkshire supporters seemingly know better.
Cameron Smith IMO was far more deserving. The ultimate contest in RL is Origin. Queensland are enjoying a record breaking domination of a true elite contest led series after series by Cam Smith. Smith plays in the elite domestic competition and is routinely recognised as the best 9 in Australia and accross the world. To lead the Storm to such a successful season after the club has had to be rebuilt and deal with the loss of several world class players.
British RL ought to be ashamed.
Perhaps the GB should have been terminated when Addidas pulled out'"
My, my. What lovely green eyes you have dear.
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| Quote: Les Norton "My, my. What lovely green eyes you have dear.'"
I guess when you see unfairness you just stand back and applaud.
Top bloke
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| Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Dreadful decision orchestrated by the Yorkshire mafia controlling dedicated RL media in Britain. Sinfield is a very nice bloke and a decent player. GB? No! MOS, his peeers did not and have never recognised Kevin as the MOS. So at the age of 32, his peers have never awarded him the ultimate accolade. Yet, the Yorkshire media and some Yorkshire supporters seemingly know better.
Cameron Smith IMO was far more deserving. The ultimate contest in RL is Origin. Queensland are enjoying a record breaking domination of a true elite contest led series after series by Cam Smith. Smith plays in the elite domestic competition and is routinely recognised as the best 9 in Australia and accross the world. To lead the Storm to such a successful season after the club has had to be rebuilt and deal with the loss of several world class players.
British RL ought to be ashamed.
Perhaps the GB should have been terminated when Addidas pulled out'" Tee hee.
It's funny because you're probably a Wiganer
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Well that s it then. Case closed!
Seriously though, just because some don't agree with it, doesn't mean they are wrong does it? How many votes for different things in your lifetime has gone against your own vote? That doesn't make them wrong.
PS. imho I don't think he should of won it.'"
Nah i just love listening to the aussies whinge. And when Sports commentators on the telly here say "who is this Kevin Sinfield anyway" actually says more about them than anything.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Well that s it then. Case closed!
Seriously though, just because some don't agree with it, doesn't mean they are wrong does it? How many votes for different things in your lifetime has gone against your own vote? That doesn't make them wrong.
PS. imho I don't think he should of won it.'"
Absolutely nothing wrong with people having a different choice for best player. Its the anger, dismay and 'its embarrassing the sport' crowd that are tragic. If people think someone else should've won it then ok, but they dont need to OTT slate Sinfield for it (especially when he didn't exactly pick himself).
It's their magazine, they can pick who they like. If people honestly feel that strongly about it (which they dont, they just like to whine) then boycott the magazine or start your own.
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| Quote: Fylde_Warrior "[sizeDreadful decision orchestrated by the Yorkshire mafia controlling dedicated RL media in Britain. Sinfield is a very nice bloke and a decent player. GB? No![/size
Because we've got so many other successful leaders to pick from have we?
[sizeMOS, his peeers did not and have never recognised Kevin as the MOS. So at the age of 32, his peers have never awarded him the ultimate accolade. Yet, the Yorkshire media and some Yorkshire supporters seemingly know better.[/size
You mean the Man of Steel award that has been voted on by his peers for five whole years now? The MoS that has been awarded to a flash player for four years in a row now and has been awarded to such all conquering players as Brett Hodgson and Rangi Chase? That's an unquestionably legitimate award now is it? Right...
[sizeCameron Smith IMO was far more deserving. The ultimate contest in RL is Origin. Queensland are enjoying a record breaking domination of a true elite contest led series after series by Cam Smith.[/size
Having the best half backs and full backs has absolutely nothing to do with their success of course, it's all down to Smith, well done Cameron.
[sizeSmith plays in the elite domestic competition and is routinely recognised as the best 9 in Australia and accross the world.[/size
So? I didn't realise that Sinfield had to change position to get respect.
[sizeTo lead the Storm to such a successful season after the club has had to be rebuilt and deal with the loss of several world class players.[/size
You mean a club that cheated it's way to titles? Boo hoo for them. They may have lost some players but they didn't half retain some quality. Leeds have lost a fair few quality players themselves over the last few years, and not because of flagrant cheating. Oh, but that doesn't count as an achievement because you don't like him. Sorry, forgot.
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British RL ought to be ashamed.[/size
What utter nonsense, what an embarrassing thing to say. British RL ought to be delighted, the shame comes from the fact that a large portion of fans can't wait to do this sort of thing down.
[sizePerhaps the GB should have been terminated when Addidas pulled out[/size
So you disagree with all the winners chosen since that happened then do you? Or did it just become an illegitimate award this year?'"
See above...
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| Quote: Fylde_Warrior "Dreadful decision orchestrated by the Yorkshire mafia controlling dedicated RL media in Britain. Sinfield is a very nice bloke and a decent player. GB? No! MOS, his peeers did not and have never recognised Kevin as the MOS. So at the age of 32, his peers have never awarded him the ultimate accolade. Yet, the Yorkshire media and some Yorkshire supporters seemingly know better.
Cameron Smith IMO was far more deserving. The ultimate contest in RL is Origin. Queensland are enjoying a record breaking domination of a true elite contest led series after series by Cam Smith. Smith plays in the elite domestic competition and is routinely recognised as the best 9 in Australia and accross the world. To lead the Storm to such a successful season after the club has had to be rebuilt and deal with the loss of several world class players.
British RL ought to be ashamed.
Perhaps the GB should have been terminated when Addidas pulled out'"
It's funny how the Yorkshire Mafia have nominated a bloke from Lancashire as the best player in the world. It's easy to forget sometimes that Leeds Rhinos are led by someone who just so happened to be born in Oldham.
I find it hilarious that you go from claiming that the MOS is the ultimate accolade, only to then go on to sing the praises of [iThe ultimate contest[/i (I agree) which is the state of origin. Going by your logic doesn't that make Man of the Series the ultimate accolade that players can win?
Unfortunately because of where he is born Kevin Sinfield is excluded from appearing in rugby leagues greatest spectacle and if you was in charge (thankfully not) no one from England would ever win the Golden Boot unless god forbid an English born player as good as Kevin claimed residency after living down under for a number of years.
Cameron Smith has had a good year but Kevin Sinfield has had a better one. Both players can only play with what they've got on the rugby field and both have performed in matches when it mattered in their respective countries last year. Only Kevin Sinfield has performed better and his record in the play offs speak for itself. Yes Kevin was on the losing side in the challenge cup but that was one final lost out of three finals that he played in last year. Cameron Smith in comparison only gets to play in one final for his club and was once on the losing side in the state of origin.
Do we automatically start excluding Cameron Smith from the Golden Boot nominations because he didn't play in the world club challenge? The Yorkshire Mafia in your eyes probably have done just that this year and will do for many years to come
Actually forget what I've just wrote above. You wouldn't have the Golden Boot all together because it's no longer sponsored by Adidas. Well going by your logic we should drop rugby league all together because we're no longer as a sport able to produce players that are good enough to be associated with Adidas in the shape of a sponsored golden boot
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