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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It says something you needed to include someone from Cas panthers to pad out your list. Along with a player who has announced his retirement, and a couple who are becoming first team players rather than actually being first team regulars.
You wouldn’t demand that Cas had 16/17 SL quality products (clearly) why make that demand of Toulouse?'"
Not bad off the top of my head really is it, and it would take Toulouse how long to produce a list half of that ??? Thanks
Also regarding putting crookes in, re read the question you asked me
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Because cas can sign other English players, Toulouse will need to rely on frnech players. Given les cats haven't been able to find 17 decent French players where will Toulouse get players from?'"
They will need to produce them, which was kind of my earlier point. There are some players at Les Catalans who could move across, there are some in the French league who can make the step up, the rest Toulouse would need to produce, but they wont be able to do that outside of SL.
And i would say you are wrong, Les Catalans have found probably more than 17 decent french players.
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| Quote: Cas Till I Die "Not bad off the top of my head really is it, and it would take Toulouse how long to produce a list half of that ??? Thanks
I could explain why your attempts to wriggle is wrong,but I cant be bothered, the fact you needed to use the panthers proves the point.
I would also say it will likely take Toulouse a hell of a lot less than 86 years to produce a list of that level of player.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I could explain why your attempts to wriggle is wrong,but I cant be bothered, the fact you needed to use the panthers proves the point.
I would also say it will likely take Toulouse a hell of a lot less than 86 years to produce a list of that level of player.'"
Not wriggling whatsoever, in the future could you please form the question you wish to ask correctly. Thanks
In the meantime you can keep yourself happy with your nice little dream of a SL that consists of ten teams with each team being from a different county with a maximum of 3 teams per country
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| Quote: Cas Till I Die "Not wriggling whatsoever, in the future could you please form the question you wish to ask correctly. Thanks'" In the context of your original statement it was phrased absolutely correctly, but you needed to pad out your list so you did. Its not important Quote: Cas Till I Die "In the meantime you can keep yourself happy with your nice little dream of a SL that consists of ten teams with each team being from a different county with a maximum of 3 teams per country
In the meantime of what? The meantime defines the intervening period between two events. Which two events are you talking about? This can be very confusing because you haven’t actually introduced two events to the argument.
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| Can they get 8k+ crowds, can they pay full salary cap and still be financially sustainable, can they put a competitive team out without weakening les cats? If they can achieve those three things I'd love to see Toulouse in SL.
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| I think people are forgetting that if Bradford drop out of SL, there will be a full team of SL level players looking for a new club. If they drop out, the team that replaces them will be mostly Bradford players anyway. The only defining factors left would be stadia, financial standing and crowds which can only point to Halifax. Expanding RL is not what should be top of the list at this juncture. After all that has happened financial stability should.
I still think the safest option will be to keep Bradford with a clean slate and more stringent financial audits.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Can they get 8k+ crowds, can they pay full salary cap and still be financially sustainable, can they put a competitive team out without weakening les cats? If they can achieve those three things I'd love to see Toulouse in SL.'"
Toulouse is about 100miles from Perpignan, there would be next to no impact. They would be in competition for players, but im not sure that’s a bad thing.
Toulouse is a big city with a market of 1.2m to go at, and apparently, or so I have been told, they have good links with local businesses and sponsorship wouldn’t be one of their problems.
As for could the immediately get 8k, and spend the SC straight away, who could possibly know until they did it.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Because cas can sign other English players, Toulouse will need to rely on frnech players. Given les cats haven't been able to find 17 decent French players where will Toulouse get players from?'"
obviously Toulouse in 2015 will be a french/english/antipodean mix - french players are coming through, don't write them off just yet
Toulouse in SL next season to replace the Bulls is unrealistic so Fax will step up but i'm sure Bulls will still be in SL so the idea of TO or Fax in SL is irrevevant anyway
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| If the Bulls are still in SL next year then that's it for me. I will no longer support RL until the numpties at Red Hall are out.
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| Can you see the irony in your post and your username ?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Can you see the irony in your post and your username ?
Yes I can. It wasn't lost on me but that is how I feel about all of this (just been a bit melodramatic). TBH I probably will still support my team but won't be attending any RL events anymore. All of this has left a bitter taste and as the dark-side's chairman pointed out, 'We need a root and Branch restructure of the RFL' This whole situation has brought the game into disrepute since March and no doubt the Bulls will probably still be in SL next year along with most of the players they have now as if nothing had happened. Any team who allows this to happen to them and allows RL's name to be dragged through the mud like it has, needs to be punished (and not just a measly 6 point deduction). The RFL need to grow a set and stamp their authority on the game!!
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "If the Bulls are still in SL next year then that's it for me. I will no longer support RL until the numpties at Red Hall are out.'"
yeah, it's always the fault of the RFL !
as a neutral RL fan ...why punish the faithful Bulls fans ?
I for one hope the Bulls survive in SL with new investors - they are still the best bet by far to play in SL as no other club is worthy of the position at this time - I hope they manage the play-offs and give their long suffering fans something to cheer about, good luck Bulls
just be thankful it's not HKR who are in the merde...
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Yes I can. It wasn't lost on me but that is how I feel about all of this (just been a bit melodramatic). TBH I probably will still support my team but won't be attending any RL events anymore. All of this has left a bitter taste and as the dark-side's chairman pointed out, 'We need a root and Branch restructure of the RFL' This whole situation has brought the game into disrepute since March and no doubt the Bulls will probably still be in SL next year along with most of the players they have now as if nothing had happened. Any team who allows this to happen to them and allows RL's name to be dragged through the mud like it has, needs to be punished (and not just a measly 6 point deduction). The RFL need to grow a set and stamp their authority on the game!!'"
Stamp their authority on the game and kick out one of the top supported clubs in the league which struggles for support as a whole, and bring in another team that has no proven track record of running a club in SL?
I understand that people are unhappy, but anyone who thinks that Bradford will just go back to how they were after this is kidding themselves. Bradford will be a very much trimmed club come next season whether they stay in SL or not.
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| Quote: sanjunien "yeah, it's always the fault of the RFL !
as a neutral RL fan ...why punish the faithful Bulls fans ?
I for one hope the Bulls survive in SL with new investors - they are still the best bet by far to play in SL as no other club is worthy of the position at this time - I hope they manage the play-offs and give their long suffering fans something to cheer about, good luck Bulls
just be thankful it's not HKR who are in the merde...'"
Valid points, however, long suffering?
In the great scheme of things it’s only two minutes since they were winning G.F’s & C.C’s.
They’re just going off like their long suffering, they don’t know the meaning of the word .
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