It doesn't work like that though, does it?

Why ask them if they aren't allowed to become feeder teams?
If they say no, then how are they going to start their own feeder league with no clubs? It would just be the current situation under a new name.

Why didn't you answer any of the questions?

I haven't read them i really cant be d.

Because quite simply , you haven a clue what you are discussing , the club you support is now happily settled in SL , it has a bright future as an established strong club

But you are trying to tell clubs that don't have what yours has how they should operate , and you're telling the fans of those clubs how they should ' feel ' about it

If enough clubs asked the RFL about it , I'm sure they would change the rules to allow it , the fact they haven't suggests there isn't the interest

We have a split game at professional level , you will suggest we don't , but ask the people down here and they will tell you different , you just get on and enjoy SL , you haven't a clue how things are or how we feel about things

Or perhaps they haven't thought about it? Or clubs haven't thought about it? Or it hasn't necessarily been needed in the past? And before you say it, just because they haven't thought about it doesn't mean it isn't worth doing.

The fact that it is football isn't what made your comment obscure. It's the fact that you're comparing two completely different quantities of things. They could both play the same amount of games and it would still be an obscure comment because they both have completely different turnovers, expenses, etc.
I don't disagree with the fact that CC clubs need to play more games (in fact I agree). It's just you can't compare it to football. It's ridiculous to think that football playing x amount of games is some kind of barometer to the number of games an RL club should be playing.


You may see what's "going on" but it doesn't mean you understand it. You're cynical. You complain about everything and no matter what the RFL do for your league you'll still complain about it. I believe the RFL can do more for the Championships. I also believe they can do more for everything. But I also believe that everyone can do more for everything. That isn't a reason to complain. That's life. There's always room for improvement.

I will believe what I want. And you can believe what you want. I don't have to believe that you are the voice of the fans of the Championship because you aren't. "Nobody down here is excited" is a complete and utter lie. It's again trying to use an extreme to put your point over.

And what has an Anglo-French competition got to do with Toulouse's experience in the Championship? The fact that one French club played an entire season against English clubs in a league with a smaller salary cap than in France is not the same as 4 French teams playing a few weeks against English clubs. The sad thing is, you want it to fail to prove you're right, and that's why you're a cynic.

Your comment on the TV deal was a HUGE contradiction. You used it in an argument to suggest why the Championships were on their knees when before you said the fact that it was on Sky hurt it. Whether they pay for it or not is irrelevant to this point. They didn't pay when it was on Sky, and they aren't paying when they're on Premier Sports. But you've gone from saying that clubs lose revenue due to the exposure on Sky to the Championships are on their knees due to being moved from Sky to a lower profile channel. You can't have it both ways and the fact that you can't explain this comment means you know it.

So how do you know what you're replying to if you haven't actually read the post?
I think you have read them, but don't have an answer.

Any club director that announced their club was to become a feeder club might as well just pack in , their fan base wouldn't stand it

As I said YOU started the football analogy , not me

I don't care what they do for anybody else , I only care about the Championships , and their recent record is abysmal

You speak to Championship fans and club officials on a regular basis , do you ?

Because I do , and they are all very unhappy with the way things are going and the ideas the RFL are coming up with

It's not an argument, is it? Me supporting a SL club doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about Championship clubs. And you supporting a Championship club doesn't mean your opinion is stronger than mine.


I'm not telling people they should be doing anything. Show me where I have? I have offered an opinion, and I have questioned others opinions, but I haven't told anyone they should do anything.

I certainly haven't told people how they should feel. I've questioned their feelings. The reason I've done this is because some people say things that don't add up or contradict other things they've said. They can't feel two ways about the same thing, it's hypocritical.

...yet. We're only three years into the licensing system (wouldn't have really been possible or logical in the P&R system). There have been other issues for clubs to concentrate on. It hasn't been a priority.

Will I? For someone who is complaining that I tell people how they should feel and do things, you're answering questions for me! I do think there is a bit of a split in the game at the moment, you're right. The licensing system has created a bit of controversy because it was such a big decision. Any big decision creates a split in opinions. That doesn't mean it's right or wrong.
And again, you're trying to be the voice of everybody in the Championships. Newsflash, not everyone in the Championship agrees with you. Not everyone has the same feelings as you. And believe it or not, you don't actually know what's going on yourself because a lot of what you type is just cynical nonsense.

Because the games against Toulouse were generally poorly attended and lacked atmosphere , I see no reason to suggest these games will be any different , also having part time players traveling overseas doesn't work , even if it is successful , only 4 out of 20 will benefit , what about the other 16 ? , they will still just get their 13/14 games

It isn't what we need , it's just another gimmick

And as I said, it's not the fact that it's football that's obscure. Can you not see how ridiculous it is to compare two completely different quantities like they're the same?!

Again, the voice of all the fans
B*llocks do you only care about the Championships. You only care about Leigh, and if Leigh were an established SL club you wouldn't care about the Championships.

I've spoken of enough of them on a regular basis to know that not all of them agree with you. And I can guarantee you will never speak to enough of them to know that they ALL agree with you. That's pretty much all I will ever need to say about that question.

I don't want it both ways , I don't want it at all , So I'll tell you again , no money , no TV

The difference this year is that from what I have been told , the coverage will be poorer ( giving a poorer impression of the game at Championship level ) less people will receive that coverage ( but still most pubs ) , and the games will still be midweek , meaning attendances will continue to suffer , and therefore clubs will still lose money

Maybe they should try some SL games on Thursday nights to see what the SL Chairmen think of it ?

If you don't understand my point , then that's your problem , not mine , I suggest you get somebody to explain it to you

So you're complaining that you need more games, but when they offer more games you complain about that as well? What a surprise!

Will they get bigger attendances than NRC games (both here and over there)? Will it offer more to the game than the NRC?

And until we know the format of the proposed competition, I can't offer an answer to the last question. But I'd guess the format would likely run concurrently alongside the NRC in some kind of way.

Let's cut the cr*p on this one, as you'll only ever offer reasons why not to do something. Why don't you actually suggest what YOU would do? What's the solution to adding more games to the league? Let's see how credible it is and how it logically stacks up...

You do want it both ways. You want to argue both ways.

And in trying to explain that you're not contradicting yourself, you've done it again. The contradiction is that you're arguing that people watching on TV is stopping them from going to the games as a negative, but also arguing that less people will get that coverage now as a negative. If they can't get it on TV, surely they'll go to the game instead (which is what you've just argued is what is stopping them going to the game).

As I said , only 4 clubs will get these games , Leigh will be one of them , so how does that fit in with my ' Leigh ' only fixation ?

I don't know the format either , in fact I don't think the RFL know how to fit it in either , considering that the seasons don't run concurrently , and yet they have already told the clubs they are going to run it

They seem to have a habit of announcing things that they haven't sorted like more teams and competitions

I've suggested lots of things , including ways of providing more games , including actively financing more teams openly , including helping clubs with marketing themselves locally where it is most needed , it's all about raising revenue for clubs , not ' gimmicks '