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Quote: gutterfax "Not me......I believe that the club have to attract fans from all over London and the south East and as for players being "claimed" as locals....without the club it's fair to say these lads wouldn't be playing League. Remember, these guys coming through now were all in Primary school when SL started........and the likes of LMS are just the tip of the iceberg.'"


I wouldnt claim to know the ins and outs of the Broncos/Quins academy structure through the years. I know Rugby league in London is growing and we are begining to see the fruits of that. But other clubs and other people are putting the effort in too. What the Quins have to do is sell themselves to the people of London. Its no good for London if they bring these players through and they just move up north To Whippet Ville for better money and prospects in the game.

After 30 or so years of Pro rugby in london we should not only have a successfull club, We should have multiple successful clubs.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Captain Charisma "Just out of curiosity does anybody know what the lowest recorded attendance for a Super League game actually is?'"
800 at PSG in 1997. 2nd lowest was Cruasders at Neath last year. Both were bizarre fixtures played away from usual home stadiums, neither should have ever been allowed to take place.

Lowest genuine home crowd AFAIK was 1,200 at Halifax in 2003, certainly that's the lowest since the early years of SL. Yet some idiot on this thread thinks they are 'more deserving' than Quins, based solely on the fact that they are a small Northern town.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Captain Charisma "Just out of curiosity does anybody know what the lowest recorded attendance for a Super League game actually is?

I really do hope things take off for them down there - I can't see them not being awarded a new SL license and I do think a London team is great for the game so hopefully the fans down there can get behind them and get numbers into the stadium'"

I believe that it was either Crusaders v Quinsin 2010 (1,122) or a PSG game in their last year when there were about 400 fans....

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Quote: af "If the Stoop is hard to get to, what is an easy to get to stadium in London? 15 mins from Waterloo seems pretty good to me.'"


Try walk to the tube, wait for the tube, get the tbe, get to Waterloo, navigate the station, wait for a train, get the train to Twickenham (making sure it's the fast train), walk to the stadium. It takes me an hour to get to the Stoop from Zone1 (Central) North London, and it takes a similar time in the car. I'd go more often than just to Leeds/Quins games if it took less of a chunk of of the day, or if the club meant something to the community I live in.

It's not what you could call local: You could get from Leeds to Salford in far less time.

People forget how big London is. No stadiums are convenient to everyone, but The Stoop is only convenient to those in Richmond/Twickenham and the suburbs around. In other words, the only area of London where RU, as opposed to football, is widely popular. So we're competing with two sports instead of one.

And yes, Broncostilidie, I am a lazy Northerner.

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Quote: Towns88 "was the attendance at the Stoop today. Start as you mean to go on ey.'"


pathetic crowd

if ever a game between these 2 clubs got 8000 then youd know RL had finally broken into the hard markets.

but a pathetic crowd, cant defend it as much as id like too

the minimum crowd for SL clubs should be 5000, its not working in london re crowds

but on the junior side of things and kids playing RL it is so there is potential there

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Quote: headhunter "Lowest genuine home crowd AFAIK was 1,200 at Halifax in 2003, certainly that's the lowest since the early years of SL. Yet some idiot on this thread thinks they are 'more deserving' than Quins, based solely on the fact that they are a small Northern town.'"


Fax aren't ready for SL. They lack a backer with serious money. Harlequins will be just fine so long as the backers keep shovelling money at them. ESL needs a London club. By all accounts BskyB demand their presence. So, let's not panic about poor crowds in London. For now, it's irrelevant. If it wasn't for London there would be no Sky-backed Super League.

That wasn't too difficult - thinking about the game before my club. I feel cleansed. God bless Super League.

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Quote: St pete "Coming from a Quins team up until recent seasons didn't have one single english player!'"



Says a St "ANZAC" Helens follower icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


You just couldn't make this stuff up!

Trying make points where none exist.

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quins/crusaders total waste of time. argument over.

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Quote: craigizzard "Try walk to the tube, wait for the tube, get the tbe, get to Waterloo, navigate the station, wait for a train, get the train to Twickenham (making sure it's the fast train), walk to the stadium. It takes me an hour to get to the Stoop from Zone1 (Central) North London, and it takes a similar time in the car. I'd go more often than just to Leeds/Quins games if it took less of a chunk of of the day, or if the club meant something to the community I live in.

It's not what you could call local
Fellow lazy Northerner, admittedly one who lives ten mins walk from Waterloo. But even when I didn't I never thought of it as the back of beyond. I'd say a tube and train ride is pretty standard for getting anywhere in London that's not the middle of town. Quins have plenty of problems but I honestly don't think where they are is one of them. It's a great ground in many respects and the potential is there to make it a great showcase for Super League.

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It takes my blossom 4 hours to carry me from Stockport to Halifax and costs me thirty apples a journey. Try doing that every fortnight. Before they lifted the cobbles in 1998 it used to take me (or rather blossom"s dad) 6 hours.

You top-hatters don't know yer born.

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obvioulsy its the RFL's fault. ive been telling lewis for years now we need to have stargates at all RL grounds. thus eliminating the need for people to travel other than getting to and from there own teams stadium.
lewis however is adamant we only install one at headquarters and then only install others in Dublin, Toulouse, cardiff and Rome in anticipation of the introduction in 2018 of Roman Raiders and Dublin Diehards icon_razz.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: craigizzard "Try walk to the tube, wait for the tube, get the tbe, get to Waterloo, navigate the station, wait for a train, get the train to Twickenham (making sure it's the fast train), walk to the stadium. It takes me an hour to get to the Stoop from Zone1 (Central) North London, and it takes a similar time in the car. ,,,........................................And yes, Broncostilidie, I am a lazy Northerner.'"


This old chestnut again icon_rolleyes.gif
Regardless of where the club play their games, if you live on the other side of town it will take you an hour +to get there......the point is, that if you're a fan of the club or just a fan of the game, then you make the effort to get to the match.
I think Twickenham station is served by 20 trains an hour.....why not read a paper on the way there?
I Know of one fan who spends over 3 hrs travelling to home games........
...bottom line is if you are a fan you will find a way to get there........the problem isn't the stadium, the location or the name....its the fact that nobody knows the club exists. There has been little or no marketing to date and the few efforts last year were terribly thought out........serious marketing means serious spend....something the club seem retisent to do.

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Quote: headhunter "
Lowest genuine home crowd AFAIK was 1,200 at Halifax in 2003, certainly that's the lowest since the early years of SL. Yet some idiot on this thread thinks they are 'more deserving' than Quins, based solely on the fact that they are a small Northern town.'"


This is from someone who thinks the RFL got £500k from the Welsh Tourist Board, then paid £500k to host MM, yet adds the two numbers up so say 'we made a million!'

If you are going to belittle Halifax based upon their contribution to the game versus that of Quins, then you really are more of a clueless deluded fool that I took you for.

Actually, I'd go one further and call you ignorant.

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Quote: vikingsmurf "obvioulsy its the RFL's fault. ive been telling lewis for years now we need to have stargates at all RL grounds. thus eliminating the need for people to travel other than getting to and from there own teams stadium.
lewis however is adamant we only install one at headquarters and then only install others in Dublin, Toulouse, cardiff and Rome in anticipation of the introduction in 2018 of Roman Raiders and Dublin Diehards
Lucky for Paul Simon that he didn't have one, otherwise he'd have missed out on a hit icon_smile.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "This old chestnut again
Then the RFL and the other clubs should cough up , for the benefit of the ' game ' , I'm sure the other SL club owners would have no problem with it icon_lol.gif

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