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| Quote: SmokeyTA "the Lower leagues get more than their fair share of the revenue, if they got their fair share, they would get nothing,
Why on earth, would you think SL chairmen would be prepared to cut their own income from tv revenue by 20% for nothing in return?'"
Based on what?
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| Quote: a.n Other "Based on what?'" based on the amount Sky pay for their TV rights
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
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| Quote: tb "Quote: tb "
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Once again , the ' prize pot ' for the Championship clubs is 2.1 million per season equating to £ 100,000 per club per season
This includes All prize money for appearing in and winning the 2 Championship GF,s , apearing in and winning the NRC finals , paying for travel to and from France for the Championship clubs and Toulouse and also the Co-operative monies paid to the home clubs that get a TV game
So every club cannot get 100 K
Every club can access around 60/70 grand from the RFL ' central funds ' , the bulk of this money will most probably have originated from SKY TV , however as the RFL do not divulge the ' break down ' of their income [ quite rightly ] only they know how much of that money is what would be termed ' SKY ' money
For clubs to access this money they need to employ certain ' key ' staff in very defined positions
A full time CEO , but many clubs prefer to have F/T lower grade staff and a director or employee of the owners company overseeing things part time , this distinction while maybe not perfect in the eyes of the RFL and some posters on here quite often suits the clubs at Championship level
A full time marketing executive with finely defined objectives set by the RFL
They are specifically employed to bring in corporate and business sponsors over and above what the club already has , targets are set and if the person does not meet those targets the money to pay them can be withdrawn by the RFL
HTH
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Roary "It maybe "a damn fine publication" but are they actually making any money out of it?
That's the point what I am trying to make.'"
Yes from the localised advertising we could sell to be in it , as against the national advertising that the RFL were selling to be in their programme
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Serge A. Storms "One way of cutting their costs would be to use the academy players from the SL as the backbone of their squads and fill it out with more experienced players. They should forget reserve/junior grade - leave that to the better amateur clubs. Forget about development officers - leave that to the SL clubs and concentrate on improving their revenues streams.
Then and only then should the SL clubs look to some form of integrated fund sharing'"
So basically you advocate the Australian model of ' feeder ' clubs ?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: tb "No. It's not even what happened when London Broncos' (not the club) parent company liquidated, and the club played out the rest of the season as London Broncos. There was no money given to the club. By anyone. And certainly not by the RFL.Still … however many times that is pointed out, they myth lives on
So the London Bronco's didn't get any SKY money that year ?
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| Quote: Starbug "So the London Bronco's didn't get any SKY money that year ?'" yes, but they sold something and got money in return for that, they werent given anything
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "yes, but they sold something and got money in return for that, they werent given anything'"
The argument was based on this post by you apprentice earlier
Quote: SmokeyTA "Marsdengiant
[Why should central funding go to clubs who will not even pay their taxes. Clubs who run up debts and fail to pay up. Hardly the custodians of good practice. Personally I would rather the money go to schools and amateur clubs than C clubs ] '"
Geekay was suggesting that the Bronco's had recieved ' central funds ' from the RFL , not paid their due taxes , ran up debts and failed to pay up
Which is exactly what Marsdengiant was suggesting Oldham had done
A bit like ' pan calling kettle black ' I think is the term , or ' sauce for the goose ' perhaps
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| Quote: Starbug "The argument was based on this post by you apprentice earlier
Geekay was suggesting that the Bronco's had recieved ' central funds ' from the RFL , not paid their due taxes , ran up debts and failed to pay up
Which is exactly what what he was suggesting Oldham had done
Nope, the RFL on behalf of SL(Europe) LTD sells the television rights to a broadcaster, this money (or an agreed proportion of it) goes to SL (Europe) LTD, the rest is kept in RFL central funding
each club in SL owns a share of SL(Europe) LTD and as such recieves revenue from SL (Europe) LTD for playing in their competition
this is the money that came from the RFL to the Broncos, The RFL were always contractually obliged to pay this money to the broncos as they were all SL clubs,
this was certainly not the case with Oldham, however much you wish deep down in your heart it was,
is this the time when you go a bit mental and start saying people are being mean about your Dad?
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| Quote: Starbug "Geekay was suggesting that the Bronco's had recieved ' central funds ' from the RFL , not paid their due taxes , ran up debts and failed to pay up
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I don't know the Oldham situation ins and outs, but the Broncos didn't get "central funds", they just got their negotiated share of income from the sale of commercial rights. They did owe money to the Inland Revenue and to David Hughes, and it was IR who when presented with a choice of repayment plan or nothing uncompromisingly chose nothing.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "I don't know the Oldham situation ins and outs, but the Broncos didn't get "central funds", they just got their negotiated share of income from the sale of commercial rights. They did owe money to the Inland Revenue and to David Hughes, and it was IR who when presented with a choice of repayment plan or nothing uncompromisingly chose nothing.'"
Kelvin , Calm down , calm down
It is still money from the RFL isn't it , the cheque doesn't come direct from SKY
It matters not to me , but our friendly Giants fan doesn't think any club that gets into trouble paying their inland revenue bill and runs up debts it cannot pay should recieve any money from the RFL
If you are arguing it isn't central funds then you must also agree that Championship clubs do not recieve any SKY money as they get ' central funds '
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Nope, the RFL on behalf of SL(Europe) LTD sells the television rights to a broadcaster, this money (or an agreed proportion of it) goes to SL (Europe) LTD, the rest is kept in RFL central funding
each club in SL owns a share of SL(Europe) LTD and as such recieves revenue from SL (Europe) LTD for playing in their competition
this is the money that came from the RFL to the Broncos, The RFL were always contractually obliged to pay this money to the broncos as they were all SL clubs,
this was certainly not the case with Oldham, however much you wish deep down in your heart it was,
is this the time when you go a bit mental and start saying people are being mean about your Dad?'"
Right gotcha , so the cheque says SL europe on it , I stand corrected
Or does it ?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Nope, the RFL on behalf of SL(Europe) LTD sells the television rights to a broadcaster, this money (or an agreed proportion of it) goes to SL (Europe) LTD, the rest is kept in RFL central funding
each club in SL owns a share of SL(Europe) LTD and as such recieves revenue from SL (Europe) LTD for playing in their competition
this is the money that came from the RFL to the Broncos, The RFL were always contractually obliged to pay this money to the broncos as they were all SL clubs,
this was certainly not the case with Oldham, however much you wish deep down in your heart it was,
is this the time when you go a bit mental and start saying people are being mean about your Dad?'"
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| Quote: a.n Other "So you don't know then. A simple "no" would have sufficed.'"
I asked:
"Show me the post where i said I know the exact amount a c club gets from Sky. Take your time...read through things carefully.......don't go by the random thoughts inside your head......dont get sidetracked by claiming I am an impressionist.
Show me where I said I know the exact amount or posters can conclude you are dillusional."
So... you're dillussional.
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "I asked:
"Show me the post where i said I know the exact amount a c club gets from Sky. Take your time...read through things carefully.......don't go by the random thoughts inside your head......dont get sidetracked by claiming I am an impressionist.
Show me where I said I know the exact amount or posters can conclude you are dillusional."
So... you're dillussional.
And I asked, do you know the exact amount of Sky funds are included in the £100k of money that a CC or CC1 can get. Well do you? If you don't know, just say. No harm it not knowing. Nobody will think any less of you.
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