Oh are we retiring baseless urban myths now? So that'll be the end to people saying the RFL have bent over backwards to help Bradford, AND that Wakey promised a new stadium. Cool.

No, because Wakefield never promised a new ground, but the RFL did bend over backwards to save the Bulls - and failed.

Now the game and member clubs, own a worthless lease on Odsal, face huge maintenance costs, will never get a commercial rent on it, and will never see the loan given to the previous club repaid.

No sorry that's now how it works. You can't deny one baseless myth but not the other. The overall impact of RFL involvement on Bradford has been hugely negative and Wakefield didn't intimate that they would improve their ground.

OR Trin DID make strong representations about an improved ground and the RFL helped Bradford more than they hindered them. I don't mind which we go with.

The RFL gave financial help (which they tried to keep secret), to the Bulls. That's a well-established fact.

Wakefield did not, at any time, promise to build a new ground if they made it to SL. Nowhere is there a record of this. There are some unattributed jouro reports, yet not a single statement from the club. That's a well-established myth.

I do of course note, you've gone from a "promise", to "a strong representation".

You've gone to combat mode. I'm not telling you what I think your club did or didn't say about your ground. I'm telling you what everyone thinks they "know". It makes zero difference in the mind of the Rugby League public. Everyone "knows" they pledged, promised, suggested or whatever word you want that they would improve bell Vue. I genuinely on a personal level have no clue or opinion whether that's true or not. It's an accepted "fact".

You don't appreciate the irony of the situation you face battling this, whilst swallowing the utter b0llocks about Bradford being somehow helped by the RFL. I tell people the facts about Bradford the same amount as you do about Wakey but here we are doing it all again.

Here it is is one more time. We have had credible bids for the club turned down so that the RFL can appoint compliant paupers instead. The mulyi million Thorne bid was accepted by the administrator and was so nailed on he met with all the players . The RFL appointed a pauper instead. That single action more than cancels out the lease by an unbelievable amount.

Everyone "knows" you promised a new ground, and everyone "knows" Bradford have net benefited from RFL involvement. I appreciate you feel defensive but I'm not one of the weirdo Wakey haters so you should join me in battling this pair of false narratives.

We know but your reaction stirred up a disagreement and allowed the usual suspect a giggle at both your expenses.