Thank you most sincerely for your analysis on the rise from learning the art of refereeing from junior rugby up to top grade, not sure why you think I need to know all this as all I have done is ask a poster why a man he deems to be a very good rugby player might choose to referee a game instead of playing it, but as I say your input is much valued, btw how do you measure a nano second.

Refs used to not be allowed to officiate their home town team, then they changed the rules as Saints kept making finals, which made the best ref at the time (Ganson) ineligible.

Where do you draw the line if you assume they are impartial? Can a Wigan ref not officiate St Helens because they are rivals? Would a Wigan ref have been allowed to officiate Huddersfield v Leeds in 2015 when Huddersfield winning would have given Wigan the LLS? What if Kendall had a semi final involving Wigan and knew that if they won that he would probably get the final as Moore would become ineligible? You kind of have to accept they are impartial and select the best official for the game or else the whole system is knackered.

It isn't a private conversation is it? I didn't EMail you did I? I just stuck up for the referees against ref bashers everywhere on a public forum by replying to you.

I don't think you personally need to know this at all, but there's been 892 "views" of the posts and I bet there's a few ref bashers amongst that lot.

Thanks for assisting me to have a go at them......

They are impartial, but it's a professional game that requires paying spectators who are the customers to provide the income. If there's a load of "customers" who think that a St. Helens born ref would give all the key decisions to Saints in a Saints match then you just don't do it, you don't cheese customers off regardless of their ridiculous complaints when there is no need to wind them up by appointing a St.Helens born ref for a st.Helens game.

"Other Refs are available"......

Well strangely enough all I am guilty of is asking a question of a certain Wigan supporter, nothing untoward from his answer to my question, but somehow one again you shoved your nose in and promptly gave it to me from the thread to the needle regarding the life of a referee from junior rugby right up to super league standard, not sure why you selected me unless you thought I was a prime candidate for you to once again have a go at certain posters on here, (your choice of words not mine), leading on from your other chosen tirades, incidentally I haven't done any ref bashing as you put it on here only that he got three crucial decisions wrong imo, I also stated that the main official Liam Moore had an exemplary game, so if you are trying to lump me in with your usual suspects please read my post properly, it's less embarrassing for you, alternatively you can follow me on twitter if your going to stalk me

How often are the fans happy with the refs anyway? How much less happy will they be when you can longer put your best refs on your best games, so get more errors than usual? Especially if you got to a situation like we had with Ganson where he was the best ref at the time by a mile but Saints were making all the finals.

The fans moan about the ref in every sport I've ever heard of, and they keep coming back and paying to watch games regardless. I've never heard of a single fan stop watching rugby because of the refs unless they were literally banned for abusing one.