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Quote: The Silent H "I do.

Any time a new team is created is a positive as it grows the game one small bit at a time.

The one concern I have is how Covid 19 will affect their plans. Perez thinks global air travel will be back in some form by Winter, but I wouldn't be surprised if air travel isn't available this time next year unfortunately.'"


'Grows The Game' Another overseas team full of barbarians, wow that is so impressive. k020.gif

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Quote: little wayne69 "Or maybe he's just got fed up of reading this dribble about a pie in the sky dream belonging to some on here, you included that is of course if there's any credibility to your posts supporting this vision, or maybe you've just reverted to type and decided to make a bit of mischief, can't imagine why i'd think that of you

Whoaaah! Punctuation dude. It makes things easier to read! Why is your Vitrol aimed at me? I wasn’t the insecure Leigh fan/Wakefield fan/Donnyman (troll) who started the thread!!? I get that you and Leigh fans feel threatened but it’s getting boring taking it out on me

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Quote: Budgiezilla "'Grows The Game' Another overseas team full of barbarians, wow that is so impressive.
What have Leigh done to grow the game other than ......nothing?

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Quote: Steph Curry "What have Leigh done to grow the game other than ......nothing?'"


As much as your pretend favourite team St. Helens have petal. icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: Budgiezilla "As much as your pretend favourite team St. Helens have petal.
What a stupid post. But I expect nothing less from you. Come back when your chairman is at the top table with leneghan and Moran, discussing the future of rugby league in this country.

By the way, that will be never. Amateur teams don’t get a seat at that table

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No need to get personal. Do me a favour, In future don't send me any more private messages being all 'Mr Nice Guy' and all that. Can't be easy living with a split personality.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "'Grows The Game' Another overseas team full of barbarians, wow that is so impressive. Most people can agree that there are positives to these new teams, except Leigh fans.

I genuinely don't understand the bitterness.

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Quote: The Silent H "Most people can agree that there are positives to these new teams, except Leigh fans.

I genuinely don't understand the bitterness.'"




Not sure where you get your most people think that there are positives to these new teams , except for Leigh fans

Most Leeds fans i speak to are against them and would much rather be playing Bulls and Leigh or even London at a pinch

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Quote: Steph Curry "Whoaaah! Punctuation dude. It makes things easier to read! Why is your Vitrol aimed at me? I wasn’t the insecure Leigh fan/Wakefield fan/Donnyman (troll) who started the thread!!? I get that you and Leigh fans feel threatened but it’s getting boring taking it out on me'"

I suppose being a member of the grammar police on here gives you a purpose in life, even though in your excitement to cause mischief in the past you have been prone to quite a few grammatical errors yourself, let me turn this back at you here, why the vitriol at Leigh and Wakefield fans?, you've never been to Bellevue but are always one of the first up there to criticise the club.
I'm not sure why you think that we feel threatened anymore than any other club in or out of super league, all this talk about north american teams is just that, talk atm, when this earth shattering news that they are going to take over our top league is announced then just maybe we might feel a tad threatened, in the meantime if it bores you that much try something different, why not keep quiet and let them that want to offer an opinion do so without you reverting to attacking them and their fans and their club as per usual, and if your really desperate you could always try and invent a new user name, maybe one that's not sussed out after two(2) posts.
I hope this is much easier to read icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: The Silent H "Most people can agree that there are positives to these new teams, except Leigh fans.

I genuinely don't understand the bitterness.'"

That's not true though is it, that's just your perception that most people can see the positives to these new teams, a north american league fine crack on with it but where's the positives in decimating our super league just to fulfil a dream a few thousand miles away.
I seem to remember you taking umbrage with me when I questioned your pointless comparison with Wakey and Widnes, maybe the Leythers are fed up with the pointless criticism they always seem to be on the end of, maybe you have genuinely mistaken passion for bitterness.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Just how ?

Just because you relegate a club wont mean that they suddenly fill their side with "locals", why on earth would they.

Surely, their ambition, along with any other wealthy club in the Championship, is to gain promotion and ply their trade in the top flight, just as it will be for any other N. American club that joins league 1 or the Championship. Also, you seem to forget that if you put Toronto in the Championship, they wont have any "local" competition and any newcomers would start in League 1 ?? There may be some mileage in them having local competition and this might help with generating interest and possibly allow them to stir interest in local broadcasting companies but, 3 clubs will never generate a stand alone deal '"


Because they are told to do so and won't be allowed in Superleague if they just drain the player pool here. You talk about "[isurely their ambition is the top flight[/i". They can have whatever ambition they want but how many times does it have to be said that any more than three overseas clubs in the top flight and there is no TV deal for anyone. No doubt Argyle would welcome New York and Ottawa Derbies "In the top flight" but this is impossible as SKY would pull the plug -that has been said by the SL bosses. As it stands there are a dozen ambitionless English clubs in the Championships so if we are ever going to expand the game that is the place to to do it isn't it?

And how do you get "three clubs". After Ottawa's and New York's acceptance to make the three, Mr Perez spoke about how clubs such as Vancouver and Montreal had renewed interest and Boston has always been on the cards. That makes six in the longer run. Asked about players Mr. Wilby spoke about how players in the USARL were interested, and if you care to check you may find that the USA have played in the World cup using USARL players. I've always said that the Championship is the place to develop the American game until it can sort it's own league.

The key is are the investors there to back it - this is what Wilby and Perez appear to be doing - setting up more NA clubs to attract those investors.

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Quote: little wayne69 "That's not true though is it, that's just your perception that most people can see the positives to these new teams, a north american league fine crack on with it but where's the positives in decimating our super league just to fulfil a dream a few thousand miles away. I questioned your pointless comparison with Wakey and Widnes, maybe the Leythers are fed up with the pointless criticism they always seem to be on the end of, maybe you have genuinely mistaken passion for bitterness.'"


I don't think you will get a discussion there Wayne, nothing I put to him is directly answered just taken off on a "Tangent"then Steph flies in to gives me what for. It's a reet double act icon_lol.gif I think they must have the same agent icon_wink.gif

The North Americans and their adopted son Wilby are cracking on with it to be fair, they are setting up the clubs at Ottawa and New York to be ready made for investors , USARL are interested as are their players, Perez is bringing in the best Canadian RU players he can. All it needs is TWP to be relegated and to get on board with the new plan which is NOT to ship whole squads out to America from here. It's worth remembering USA players played in the World cup.

People would also do well to remember that Perez walked away from TWP. One can only hope that was on the principle that he accepted he had to grow the game there, not ship it in from here.......

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Not sure where you get your most people think that there are positives to these new teams , except for Leigh fans

Most Leeds fans i speak to are against them and would much rather be playing Bulls and Leigh or even London at a pinch'"

Got to agree with you why on Earth do we have to put up with teams thousands of miles away does not make sense to me

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Quote: Donnyman "People would also do well to remember that Perez walked away from TWP. One can only hope that was on the principle that he accepted he had to grow the game there, not ship it in from here.......'"



rlToronto Was The First Of It's Kind,So A Test Projectrl

He's only slightly behind schedule.He seems to be doing more in a few years than M62 clubs have done in well over a century...

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Not sure where you get your most people think that there are positives to these new teams , except for Leigh fans

Most Leeds fans i speak to are against them and would much rather be playing Bulls and Leigh or even London at a pinch'"

What do you think their reasoning is?

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