Have they got a new stadium yet, have they , have they been for nearly 20 years now producing grand schemes artists impressions etc of stadiums that have never materialised, yes that have. Has so much as a spade ever been stuck in the ground at any proposed site. NO.

So is my post utter nonsense.? no it's not is it.

At the risk of going off an a non RL related tangent, the sooner that Town/ City councils stop building additional "out of town" shopping complexes and instead, start investing in the city/town centres that have become ghost towns, full of charity shops and coffee shops, the better for all of us.

If money was no object and you took politics out of the equation, Cas would be just as well served with a properly re vamped Wheldon Road ground and they could build housing on the proposed 5 towns development.

its like groundhog day on this forum

I certainly remember it taking a while to get planning permission for Newmarket first time round because a certain Leeds City Council stick their beaky noses into it.

It’s total nonsense, I’ve followed both clubs effort and both have tried incredibly hard. It’s nothing to do with smoke and mirrors as I say only an idiot would think that.

For both clubs it’s a mixture of bad luck and an unsupportive Council. We don’t all have a council who are willing to use money from the sale of its telecommunications shares to build a stadium. Or a football club to share the cost with. Or a retail tycoon to stump up the cash.

I don’t resent those clubs getting there lucky breaks but I do resent people like you kicking out at those who were less fortunate. I beleave there is a name for people like you.

Finally you name me a current SL club who have redeveloped or built a stadium without the support of a local authority, a football team or a developer (all three in many cases). Warrington is the only one that springs to mind.

IIRC Warrington's stadium was on the back of a Tesco development. However, several clubs in the 'lower leagues' have managed to redevelop their stadiums significantly without any such help......

I am not kicking out at clubs, but have presented hard facts, both clubs have failed to deliver a modern stadium despite promises and fanciful predictions, FACT. Just because You just don't like it does not make it nonsense, so maybe you should wind your neck in rather than name calling.
Maybe both sides have been trying but both are still nowhere near a new stadium and Cas are now back to the drawing board.

whats happening at wakefield? i seem to remember some artists impressions of redevelopment at their current ground and the fact they were looking at a ground share possibly at barnsley whilst work was being done. is any of this still likely or did i dream it?

with a good sized shiny new seated stand on the donny road side and a full length covered terrace opposite you could have a nice stadium. Same goes for Cas - replace that awful small seated 'main' stand with a full length one and it would make a great difference. i know at cas 2 stands are hemmed in a bit by housing and a main road but there's room on the other 2 sides.

both these grounds must cost the clubs a small fortune in routine and reactive maintainence

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