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Sadly i don't think RL is in any position of strength to renegotiate with Sky when they know full well the RFL won't have seriously explored other avenues of competition, and at this point in the history of the sport they are utterly dependent on them

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Quote: bramleyrhino "You think "hundreds of thousands" of Sky subs rely on RL?'"

Probably 80-120k are purely RL subscribers yes. All my family and several of my friends and neighbours get sky for RL and they would all cancel.
If someone like BT sport signed up super league they would get a huge boost in subscribers, my subscription would go where ever the super went end of.

Of course this may be a plot from sky to get super league to breakaway and go to a closed shop 14 team franchise with London and Toulouse added.

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Quote: Leyther14 "Why would New York, Ottawa, and Toronto be of interest to Sky when they don’t sell subscriptions in those countries.'"


Because some of the hundreds of thousands of Americans, Canadians and French citizens who live in the UK would be more likely to watch.

Plus the average soft core general sports viewer in the UK would find the more internationally oriented competition more significant than the M62 + Catalans only competition.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Probably 80-120k are purely RL subscribers yes. All my family and several of my friends and neighbours get sky for RL and they would all cancel.
If someone like BT sport signed up super league they would get a huge boost in subscribers, my subscription would go where ever the super went end of.

Of course this may be a plot from sky to get super league to breakaway and go to a closed shop 14 team franchise with London and Toulouse added.'"


The figures you quoted are way off the mark. Try about 20-30k. As sky have said in the past, the majority of viewers are actually in the south of England who no doubt don’t have sky for purely rugby league purposes

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icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: Sky need to save a couple of million so that they can add another billion or so to their next offer for football. Sky must know that Superleague is both cheap
and popular and good value but it seems that they can fill the hours with any old crap and it still does not matter.
Personally I would happily see Sky go belly up. Usually I buy day passes on NOW TV if there is a match that I cannot get to and sometimes I will buy the odd week. Last summer because of a run of away games I decided to get a month long pass but I failed to read the small print so I did not realise that buying a month pass enrols you onto a rolling contract so beware. They had about £100 before I could cancel. That is the last of my money they will ever have. a026.gif

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Quote: Steph Curry "The figures you quoted are way off the mark. Try about 20-30k. As sky have said in the past, the majority of viewers are actually in the south of England who no doubt don’t have sky for purely rugby league purposes'"



Even if that is the case 30k x around £60 a month with sky sports package plus bolt movies and other, would be a loss if around 25 -30 million a year if Sky loose these subscribers due to dropping RL.

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I'm still trying to fathom why anyone actually "pays" for SKY/FOX/BT or any of the other stations. d040.gif

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Quote: rollin thunder "Even if that is the case 30k x around £60 a month with sky sports package plus bolt movies and other, would be a loss if around 25 -30 million a year if Sky loose these subscribers due to dropping RL.'"


No it’s not. Is about £10m because sky sports is around £30 a month not £60.

They could earn that from showing more rugby union

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The NRL has teams in the three largest Australian TV markets of the five that matter. Super League doesn't have teams located in any of the largest British TV markets that matter.

Richard Lewis, who brought Catalans into Super League, threatened to resign if London was dropped from Super League under licensing. After Lewis left the RFL, his dumb successors dropped licensing in favour of promotion and relegation -- a system which prevents the RFL from deciding which teams are part of Super League. The result has been a sport that no longer has a team located in the biggest TV market in the country.

Little wonder that Sky wants to reduce it payment to Super League.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Because some of the hundreds of thousands of Americans, Canadians and French citizens who live in the UK would be more likely to watch.

Plus the average soft core general sports viewer in the UK would find the more internationally oriented competition more significant than the M62 + Catalans only competition.'"


Well I suppose we will see next year if the viewing figures go up with Toronto in SL. Bearing in mind what a small % of the millions in the Uk watch RL think it is a stretch to think uk Canadians and Americans will watch in numbers. Any evidence of this with Catalan. There away support would suggest not.

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Quote: Leyther14 "Well I suppose we will see next year if the viewing figures go up with Toronto in SL. Bearing in mind what a small % of the millions in the Uk watch RL think it is a stretch to think uk Canadians and Americans will watch in numbers. Any evidence of this with Catalan. There away support would suggest not.'"


I know that it would never happen but, if Leigh were playing in a French league, how many away games would you mange to watch ?
It's totally unrealistic for Catalan (and Toronto) fans to attend more than say, one away fixture.
As far as watching on TV, I wonder what effect the number of people watching on "bootleg" channels has on the Sky deal.
I only know of 1 person that pays Sky to watch RL on Sky sports. Of course, the advertisers still get to "sell" their products to the people that dont pay for a Sky subscription but, if their revenue is dependent on people actually paying for Sky + Rugby League, we are screwed for the next deal and do these people count in the figures.
And to reply to the "faux" Frenchman, would London being in Super League make any difference whatsoever to the numbers of people in London watching RL ?
They have 1000-1500 home fans and most of them are "displaced" Northerners or Aussies, it's just more fake news. d040.gif

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London Broncos averaged 2,000 fans at home games in 2019 and delivered £0.00 in value to Sky Sports. Toronto will average 9,000 and deliver the same monetary value to SKY......

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Quote: wrencat1873 "... would London being in Super League make any difference whatsoever to the numbers of people in London watching RL ?

They have 1000-1500 home fans and most of them are "displaced" Northerners or Aussies, it's just more fake news. 2.00341796875:5
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