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| Quote: rollin thunder "This comes up every few years, and it always shows Castleford in a good light, what it does not say is Castleford draw huge numbers of their fan base from Pontefract Knottingley kippax Allerton Bywater and well into Selby District, and a Normanton a bit of a 3 way split. Castleford Pontefract Knottingley close to 100k
Also conveniently forgot South if the river un Leeds is traditionally Hunslet territory you Know the other professional RL side in Leeds ok they are not the Big club they used to be but there is a huge population in that area that will bot follow Leeds.'"
I'll give you the first point but the second one, no way!
That may have been the case circa 1919 but not in 2019, seriously. |
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Interesting stats and like some posters have already said they can be flawed depending on what you want to use.
Probably the only sure fire way of proving if figures are falling which I`m sure they are is to publish the average attendance for all the clubs over say a 5 year period.
Even with Headingley under redevelopment I don`t think it ever reached it`s (reduced) capacity.
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Alternatively it’s a league table to show which clubs have reached their potential for crowds and which have bigger scope for growth.
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| Quote: Him "Alternatively it’s a league table to show which clubs have reached their potential for crowds and which have bigger scope for growth.'"
It's not really though... |
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "It's not really though...'"
Why not? |
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Considering some teams brought no more than a taxi full of fans to our stadium as they knew they would get a hiding. I’m surprised we had the highest average attendance. That said, we do have the bonus that Wigan and Warrington are close by who bring a lot of fans'"
You never go to any games so you literally cannot talk about attendances. |
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "When you look at raw attendance figures they can be misleading when expressing the importance of the club to its community. A different but not necessarily better guide is the percentage of the population from each clubs catchment area that regularly attends games. This is not overly scientific and there are lots of other factors coming into play. Most obvious being the recent success of each club, its facilities and competition from other sports in that area. All the same, it's interesting, the most dramatic being Leeds at the bottom, not that most clubs wouldn’t kill for those figures.
I’ve left out London because it's not fair to compare them to anyone and Catalan because they are SL’s only regional club and thus it's hard to pin down their exact catchment area.
These are not super accurate figures but close enough, I've rounded them up to the nearest 0.5%. Apologies if I've made any huge errors, I'm sure they will be corrected. ![]()
The problem is that it doesn't take into account other factors. For example, Wigan is the most northerly Super League team, so pretty much everyone in Lancashire who follows rugby league follows Wigan, as there isn't a top flight team in Lancashire (and I mean the whole of Lancashire, as of course Wigan is in Greater Manchester). You could apply the Catalan argument to Wigan quite easily. Saints probably do the same with Merseyside.
Similarly, Cas have that hinterland sewn up between them and Hull, which includes places like Selby.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "The problem is that it doesn't take into account other factors. For example, Wigan is the most northerly Super League team, so pretty much everyone in Lancashire who follows rugby league follows Wigan, as there isn't a top flight team in Lancashire (and I mean the whole of Lancashire, as of course Wigan is in Greater Manchester). You could apply the Catalan argument to Wigan quite easily. Saints probably do the same with Merseyside.
Similarly, Cas have that hinterland sewn up between them and Hull, which includes places like Selby.'"
Lol what ??? |
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Wigan is the most northerly Super League team.'"
Both Hulls are further North than Wigan, as are Leeds, Wakey, Castleford, Huddersfield...... |
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| Quote: AXE2GRIND "Both Hulls are further North than Wigan, as are Leeds, Wakey, Castleford, Huddersfield......'"
I meant in the west. Sorry |
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I meant in the west. Sorry'"
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "The problem is that it doesn't take into account other factors. For example, Wigan is the most northerly Super League team, so pretty much everyone in Lancashire who follows rugby league follows Wigan, as there isn't a top flight team in Lancashire (and I mean the whole of Lancashire, as of course Wigan is in Greater Manchester). You could apply the Catalan argument to Wigan quite easily. Saints probably do the same with Merseyside.
Similarly, Cas have that hinterland sewn up between them and Hull, which includes places like Selby.'"
That might be why I put right at the beginning that there are other factor, for heavens sake  |
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Some interesting stats there, although there are many mitigating factors. Warrington s population is shooting up each year, mainly by people moving into the town from elsewhere. Many don't even know we have a team and would probably not even attend a game if they did. Others continue to watch games but follow their original teams, or may have lived in Warrington all their lives but glory hunt and go to Wigan or saints instead. I doubt there are many in those towns that make the journey to Warrington for the wire.
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "When you look at raw attendance figures they can be misleading when expressing the importance of the club to its community. A different but not necessarily better guide is the percentage of the population from each clubs catchment area that regularly attends games. This is not overly scientific and there are lots of other factors coming into play. Most obvious being the recent success of each club, its facilities and competition from other sports in that area. All the same, it's interesting, the most dramatic being Leeds at the bottom, not that most clubs wouldn’t kill for those figures.
I’ve left out London because it's not fair to compare them to anyone and Catalan because they are SL’s only regional club and thus it's hard to pin down their exact catchment area.
These are not super accurate figures but close enough, I've rounded them up to the nearest 0.5%. Apologies if I've made any huge errors, I'm sure they will be corrected. ![]()
THANK YOU for your hard work. Interesting stuff. I find that catchment areas are far bigger than town boundaries, and that another whopping factor is success (or not) on the pitch.
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