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Don’t think Toronto wanted central funding as they can generate more from Canadian TV and sponsorship so expect high paid Marquee players as well as spending to full salary cap. There strategy has been to outspends clubs so fa, don’t see that changing. They will change the financial dynamic of SL as they have done in championship which will be far more level playing field and tight competition next year.

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Quote: duke street 10 "Another team that won't play home games on a Thursday. Plus they will probably want favours on the fixture list, salary cap and overseas quota. Its a cautious welcome from me.'"


Or on any day, in February, March or most of April! icon_wink.gif

Well done to them, on earning promotion. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif Should be interesting to see how things go in SL.

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Another game i will not be able to attend along with Catalan , another home game with no atmosphere .

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Every player they have will be overseas

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Another game i will not be able to attend along with Catalan , another home game with no atmosphere .'"


Shame, you're missing out.

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Yep only been following the game for 55 years so i do not really matter

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People seriously worried about games with no atmosphere?

They are going to get 10,000 a game, at least for their first season. Because they have been getting 7,000+ a game in the Championship. How many do Salford / London / Wakefield get for a home game - it's certainly nowhere near 10,000!

This is credible, sustainable expansion with a well supported club who started at the bottom, the usual argument against franchises being entirely artificial clubs in parts of the country with no love for the game starting life in the top flight.

There is a credible plan for a 2nd Canadian club in 2021 and, if that takes off, it wouldn't surprise me if we had New York shortly after.

Rugby League failed in any meaningful top flight expansion unit Catalan Dragons came along - I think Toronto could be the second success story.

They are also the World's only trans-Atlantic sports team, which has to count for something and will surely attract some publicity and sponsorship.

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i meant and you obviously ignored games in England with no away support such as we already have with Catalan and London this year

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Mate ,
There are more of us that do not want them than do . They will be gone within 2 years . I do not mind expansion but it should start from closer to home and our long serving , heartland clubs should be looked after . How it was an even playing field when there was such a difference in salary cap i will never know'"


Unless I’m mistaken there was no difference in their salary cap

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Another game i will not be able to attend along with Catalan , another home game with no atmosphere .'"


Their away following by champ standards was not that bad to be honest - about 150 - 200 ish

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3 teams will play toronto twice away with these silly loop fixtures, hopefully those teams will be chosen as the wolfpacks' on the road fixtures so each SL team and fans can visit toronto next season

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Shame, you're missing out.'"


I'll take a gamble here, that Catalan at home is much lower on your list of "go see" games, than it is to the top.
Even as a Trinity fan, I'd rather watch us play Huddersfield or Salford at home than Catalan and once the novelty wears off with Toronto, it will very likely be the same.
Let's not even go into the cost of trying to go to the away fixture.
I was lucky enough to see Trinity at every away game last season, although (luckily) I only managed one of the London, Wigan and Saints games but, Toronto can only be a one off.
Remembering that Ottowa are joining the League soon and although thet would help Toronto's position, just as Toulouse in the top flight may help Catalan (apart from them fighting over the same player pool), it will be a negative as far as both cost and "killing" another home fixture, plus the likely demise of another English club.
Is this really what we want for our sport ?

As for the "we've had 100 years" argument. This is just nonsense.
Throw in a couple of wars and the game almost being bankrupt in the late 80's/early 90's and you get a completely different slant on that argument.

Toronto have shown what can be done with decent marketing and promotion of the game and the one thing that we need to do is learn from that.

The infighting within the sport and lack of proper planning have been shocking over the years.

Grand final aside, our major events are badly planned and even more badly promoted.

Finally, can someone please disclose the "masterplan" for the sport and expansion, assuming that there is one a046.gif
Most people seem to disregard anything before SL began, anyway

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I would love to see what Toronto's sponsorship and commercial deals are like for next season? Would be interesting to see how they compare financially with the other clubs.

I would assume their own marketing department dwarfs the rest of SL.

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A successful Toronto side will do more for the sport over 10 years than (yet another) northern team supported by one man and his dog.

I don't know how people can object to Toronto really.

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Quote: Someday "And don’t forget HKR average 8000 or more'"


Absolutely, over 8200 average this season despite been near the foot of the table for most of it.
Makes you wonder what the crowds might be if they can start to achieve some success.

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