I can't say that's that's been the case so far this year.

Both Fifita and Pauli, for example, have played "long minutes" as they say now.

Which games do you think this has occurred in?

Technically - yes; in reality - probably not; but for a club that has managed its way prudently out of a serious financial crisis, and put together a stable squad that includes some players who would walk into any side in SL, we're doing ok - probably better than 99% of predictions for the season would have suggested.

There's very little hubris in evidence on the WT board - supporters seem, in the main, to be cautiously optimistic, and happy with each win as it comes.

not according to jonno, were all spouting as if were taking over the game, to be honest being to think this thread is a wind up

Never understood this no star bit. Some were not stars when they signed but they sure are now.
Johnstone, Fifita, Tupou and Ashurst would get in any SL team. Miller, Lyne, BJB, Hampshire, Arundal, Batchelor, Arona, Kopzac and Brough would get in most. The rest right up to about no26 would get in a fair few SL teams.

Plenty of strength in depth combined with more star players than many SL teams, only Saints, Wire and Leeds (technically) have more 'stars'.

Its a bit of a myth and a touch condecending imo, how they have managed this on such a low budget I admit remains a mystery.

Can they do it? If they start to get lucky on the injury front and players return fully fit sooner rather than later then they have an outside chance though big match experience will be an issue.

Think back to 2017 - had it not been for a Grix brainfart against Saints, we'd have got the experience of a semi-final under our belt for certain. And the way we were playing, I'd have backed us to win at Cas in that semi-final.

This is a mirror conversation to the one about London going down. Will London go down? Probably. Is it great that they are making a good fight of it? Yes absolutely.

Will Wakey win the grand final? No probably not. Is it good that another team is in the mix? Yes of course.

Their away form will rule out a top 5 finish. Definitely top 8 though.

Can Wakefield make the grand final?

Not if Sky, The RFL, Councillor Box or those pesky kids have anything to do with it!

Only joking anyone in the top 5 can - it would be good if it was someone new.

Nearly 25 years of Superleague and still only 4 names appeared on the trophy. Even more telling only 7 clubs have appeared in the grand final out of 22 current and former super league clubs.

The competition is crying out for some new blood at the top table.

It would be a remarkable achievement from Million pound game to Grand Final in 4 years.

I'm sorry and I know its hypothetical but you had a chance in August 17 to ruin our night by preventing us winning the LLS against you, you came to play that night but we still dispatched of you with relative ease so I really don't think we'd have lost the play off semi to Wakefield. Saints still had plenty of experience and talent in that side and gave us a lesson on play off rugby. We got the lesson and luckily came through it but then lost our best player 48 hours before and the rest is history.

Whats wrong with our away form? Only played 4 away games, won 2, hardly poor.

Yeah its hypothetical so you can't know that can you, every day and every game are different.

We lost twice at home in 2017, once against hull, a week before the semi final when we rested 10 players and to saint helens first game of the superb 8s. No way would we have lost to Wakefield at home. Plenty of logic to suggest saints or Leeds or even Wigan or hull had they finished 4th but not Wakefield that season.

This season they could, but a lot depends on luck with injuries as it does most sides. The top 2 do look significantly better than the rest.

This bit i'm getting sick of seeing Saints & Warrington are not miles ahead of the rest of us,There both good sides the main difference is there both consistent than the rest of us, They beat Wakey with 2 mins to go and that day with the amount of procession wakey had on there line we should have scored a lot more than we did BUT we didn't and there won so there not miles ahead just a good team.

Yes, why not?

We’re 8 points ahead of you. We’re miles better as are Warrington.