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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Who’s cares whether it’s bent or not?

Super duper league is run by a bunch of greedy short sighted ten bob shysters who have now bullied control from the rfl.

It’s why the sport is dying on its booty and aside from 3 or 4 elite clubs the top division is full of dross.'"


And who ran 'Super Duper League' when it allowed the old Bradford Bulls to bust the bank in the quest for trophies and then fell into a mire of repeated financial crises? The men who run many of our SL clubs are ultra-successful in their own businesses, are young by that standard ( 40s-50s) and dynamic. They have a vision and drive to kick SL and RL into the 21st Century. They've recruited Robert Elstone, one of the UK's most experienced and successful sports administrators/business execs to run SL and are funding him ( he will not be cheap, though he's taken a pay cut to come from Everton football) and the team he is building out of their funds. This is long-term investment. Do you not think these guys are hugely more capable of driving the success of the sport than Nigel Wood and Ralph Rimmer, neither of whom has a proven track record in anything, including RL?

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Quote: Asgardian13 "And who ran 'Super Duper League' when it allowed the old Bradford Bulls to bust the bank in the quest for trophies and then fell into a mire of repeated financial crises? The men who run many of our SL clubs are ultra-successful in their own businesses, are young by that standard ( 40s-50s) and dynamic. They have a vision and drive to kick SL and RL into the 21st Century. They've recruited Robert Elstone, one of the UK's most experienced and successful sports administrators/business execs to run SL and are funding him ( he will not be cheap, though he's taken a pay cut to come from Everton football) and the team he is building out of their funds. This is long-term investment. Do you not think these guys are hugely more capable of driving the success of the sport than Nigel Wood and Ralph Rimmer, neither of whom has a proven track record in anything, including RL?'"


Like I said 3 to 4 elite clubs the rest are total dross and far from “ultra successful”. Hence why the best they can come up with is to bully the community game and foundation clubs into handingnback the few quid they chuck their way as opposed to addressing the real issues with the sport.

Falling viewing figures and spectator numbers are the reason why the sport is dying and that’s because essentially super duper league isn’t worth watching.

That’s the reason why England ru sell out twickers and get sponsors like Land Rover and verve cliquet. Ie people want to watch it. People don’t want to watch The vast majority of super league matches hence the superleague clubs set themselves up to get less from sky next time round and it attracts sponsors like Dacia and franks pies.

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Looks like Widnes put no effort into competing with Hull kr. When £250k was on the line for them, who can blame them, they should never have been put in that situation. However it looks highly likely match fixing has taken place in our sport.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Looks like Widnes put no effort into competing with Hull kr. When £250k was on the line for them, who can blame them, they should never have been put in that situation. However it looks highly likely match fixing has taken place in our sport.'"

Believe me, Widnes were poor but they never gave in. They tried everything to get on the scoreboard and with a couple of decision going their way, they would have scored a couple of tries. I find your post offensive not only to my club but to the players who played out there. If Widnes were taking it easy why would one of Hull KR's halfbacks have to come off due to a broken rib because of a massive hit? d040.gif

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Looks like Widnes put no effort into competing with Hull kr. When £250k was on the line for them, who can blame them, they should never have been put in that situation. However it looks highly likely match fixing has taken place in our sport.'"


Why pay when you can get something for free? No-one in their right mind would pay widnes to lose.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Looks like Widnes put no effort into competing with Hull kr. When £250k was on the line for them, who can blame them, they should never have been put in that situation. However it looks highly likely match fixing has taken place in our sport.'"


I would worry more about your club next season. Losing to us and Toronto plus a dubious win over Salford, and they were all at Headingly.

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Like I said 3 to 4 elite clubs the rest are total dross and far from “ultra successful”. Hence why the best they can come up with is to bully the community game and foundation clubs into handingnback the few quid they chuck their way as opposed to addressing the real issues with the sport.

Falling viewing figures and spectator numbers are the reason why the sport is dying and that’s because essentially super duper league isn’t worth watching.

That’s the reason why England ru sell out twickers and get sponsors like Land Rover and verve cliquet. Ie people want to watch it. People don’t want to watch The vast majority of super league matches hence the superleague clubs set themselves up to get less from sky next time round and it attracts sponsors like Dacia and franks pies.'"


Thanks for missing all the points I made. Union's big sponsors are in for the internationals and their premiership. Do you see big sponsors in lower-tier Union? If not , can't you see the logic that SL directors funding a talented and experienced new commercial team under Robert Elstone is imaginative, long-term investment?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Looks like Widnes put no effort into competing with Hull kr. When £250k was on the line for them, who can blame them, they should never have been put in that situation. However it looks highly likely match fixing has taken place in our sport.'"
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I think you are possible right.
I mean, who would have thought the mighty winos would roll over and have their bellies tickled by a bunch of no hopes from Canada.
Unless the RFL whispered in someone's ear.

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Quote: Asgardian13 "Thanks for missing all the points I made. Union's big sponsors are in for the internationals and their premiership. Do you see big sponsors in lower-tier Union? If not , can't you see the logic that SL directors funding a talented and experienced new commercial team under Robert Elstone is imaginative, long-term investment?'"



So you agree then?!? People want to watch ru premiership and internationals that’s what I said and you’ve just agreed with me. People don’t want to watch superleague or rl internationals. Hence the fact the stadiums are half empty and the sponsors and tv money are rubbish.

I have absolutely no idea what sponsors they get in lower tier rugby union but what exactly does that prove? Our lower tiers get naff all too and zero tv viewers. Because it’s not on tv.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "People want to watch ru premiership and internationals that’s what I said and you’ve just agreed with me. People don’t want to watch superleague or rl internationals. Hence the fact the stadiums are half empty and the sponsors and tv money are rubbish.
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Well done for stating the obvious eusa_clap.gif
Now, any ideas on how to change that situation?

First up, The Hearn's have no history of dealing with a team sport successfully and they would want total control, so that's a non starter.

If it were me (and thank god it's not), I'd start with the next TV deal. Regardless of if it's just SKY or there's others interested, we need to have a game on FTA each week, so a major part of the contract needs to be this......if we remain behind a paywall, we will be dead as a sport inside a decade no matter who we employ. Our audience is aging and we aren't replacing them....if that Wire win at Saints had been on the BBC tonight it would have had 1,500,000 viewers tuning in......it'll be lucky to get 10% of that on SKY........

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