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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Quote: AS108 "McShane has no chance, Roby is miles better. Similar with Tupou, good player but despite Sky’s best efforts to make out he deserves it he definitely doesn’t. It has to be a Saints player and I think the final 3 will end up being 1. Roby 2. Barba 3. Bateman. Luke Thompson and Jonny Lomax can both consider themselves unlucky.'"
McShane with not only the most tackles in super league but a whopping 27 assists.
Roby has been playing in a team with a clean bill of health most of the year, McShane certainly has not.
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Tony Gigot is a genuine contender.
Ben Barba was very impressive in the 1st half of the season but hasn’t kept that up over the last few months
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| Quote: Towns88 "McShane with not only the most tackles in super league but a whopping 27 assists.
Roby has been playing in a team with a clean bill of health most of the year, McShane certainly has not.
Lomax ? Give over.'"
McShane has played more minutes than Roby and Houghton which is why he has more tackles. Assists aren’t the be all and end all otherwise Richie Myler and Jacob Miller would be in contention. Roby has outclassed McShane on 3 occasions this year. McShane getting MOS really would be a sad moment for Super League and an indicator of just how far we’ve fallen. Lomax has been the best stand off by a country mile with 17 try’s and 16 assists. He’s been outstanding and would walk into every SL side on this seasons form. |
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Roby, McShane, Bateman couldnt argue against any. Barba was I front but his drop of form around time of his move back to NRL may well count against him.
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| Quote: Rupert Slazenger "Bateman by plenty , in the absence of the like of Farrell and SOL for long periods of the season , he has practically carried the Wigan pack singlehandedly at times . A phenomenal seasons work , he may well sign off with another ring , wouldn't be surprised .'"
It would be a joke for the MOS to not come from Saints. Bateman is an excellent player gives 110% and all that but he isn’t a particularly skillful player. Sure he makes metres and tackles everything in sight but in way of try’s or assists he doesn’t contribute a great deal. He’s become overrated and shouldn’t win MOS. |
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| Quote: AS108 "Quote: AS108 "]Assists aren’t the be all and end all otherwise Richie Myler and Jacob Miller would be in contention. Lomax has been the best stand off by a country mile with 17 try’s and 16 assists.'"
A bit contradictive there owd lad.
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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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Correct. He's a moron. A hooker with 27 try assists. Not a bloody stand off or scrum half!
AS literally vanished when saints blew the cup and then their LLS v Wigan. Back after they've beaten an in form hull side and a wire side missing their best players.
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| Quote: Towns88 "Correct. He's a moron. A hooker with 27 try assists. Not a bloody stand off or scrum half!
AS literally vanished when saints blew the cup and then their LLS v Wigan. Back after they've beaten an in form hull side and a wire side missing their best players.'"
Wire were missing Hughes and Clark. Saints were missing LMS and Roby. |
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| Quote: Towns88 "Correct. He's a moron. A hooker with 27 try assists. Not a bloody stand off or scrum half!
AS literally vanished when saints blew the cup and then their LLS v Wigan. Back after they've beaten an in form hull side and a wire side missing their best players.'"
McShane has been given more attacking responsibility since the injury to Gale and up until recently, the lack of a proper Full back. Roby has 11 with a lot less responsibility in the opposition 20 and less playing time. |
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| Quote: Cokey "
It’s a fact though, if we were judging solely on assists then Miller is the best 6 in the league even though it’s not true. Lomax is defensively good and has the try’s and assists to back that up and has been excellent all season. McShane just simply isn’t as good as Roby regardless of how many more assists he has than him.
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| Quote: AS108 "
I haven't stated who i think is the best have i? the point is, you would like to use the word assist to suit a player from your team.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Tony Gigot is a genuine contender.
Ben Barba was very impressive in the 1st half of the season but hasn’t kept that up over the last few months'"
The same Tony Gigot who was missing at the start of the year? |
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| Quote: AS108 "It would be a joke for the MOS to not come from Saints. Bateman is an excellent player gives 110% and all that but he isn’t a particularly skillful player. Sure he makes metres and tackles everything in sight but in way of try’s or assists he doesn’t contribute a great deal. He’s become overrated and shouldn’t win MOS.'"
The best team doesn't necessarily have the best player i.e. Cas in 2011 or Hudds in 2013.
Also you say Bateman isn't a particularly skillfull player but then disregard the try assist statistics? |
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| Quote: Willzay "The best team doesn't necessarily have the best player i.e. Cas in 2011 or Hudds in 2013.
Also you say Bateman isn't a particularly skillfull player but then disregard the try assist statistics?'"
Correct Willy. |
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| Quote: AS108 "Wire were missing Hughes and Clark. Saints were missing LMS and Roby.'"
Not forgetting the two half backs and two second row forwards that were erm.. injured during the game. |
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