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^^ Whatever the ‘true’ numbers are though Fully, it looked a decent crowd. If they get promotion I must admit i’m quite looking forward to going next season - it looks so different to our set ups over here so would be a good experience I reckon.

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There are 12 sections at the Lamport, plus 4 small ones at each end, each with 20 rows of seats, so 8217 would need around 32 spectators on each and every row of each section of the ground (capacity is approx 37 on each). Even allowing for some folk standing behind the posts and in the beer garden, it didn't look anywhere close to that...



TWP do have great crowds at the moment, but shouldn't need to hype them up as it reduces their credibility. If they fail to gain promotion this time round (I can't see any restructure for 2019, if there is one then it'll be for 2020 or 2021), and then perhaps start losing a few more games it would be interesting to see if the Toronto public maintain interest.

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Quote: HXSparky "How can it be setting a benchmark when it doesn't reflect the true numbers? Granted TWP may well have "sold" that many tickets, but there were far less than that actually in the ground. I'm not sure what our own attendances has to do with this? I've always said that TWP are getting excellent crowds but that the numbers in the ground are clearly far less than the declared figures. Whether this is down to a lot of season ticket holders not turning up, or something else, I'm not sure.

As it happens, I'm really enjoying our part-time present (assuming Rochdale don't spoil the party later today).'"


There's a piece about 'fax in today's Observer. Implies that the club sees the reserve side as having greater importance than going full time (not criticising this stance btw, I just mention it in case you haven't read it).

As for TW, they were flogging tickets for the Fev game half price which will have boosted the crowd, I'd have thought.

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Quote: Clearwing "There's a piece about 'fax in today's Observer. Implies that the club sees the reserve side as having greater importance than going full time (not criticising this stance btw, I just mention it in case you haven't read it).

As for TW, they were flogging tickets for the Fev game half price which will have boosted the crowd, I'd have thought.'"


Whichever way you look at it, it's still an excellent attendance. Whether there are numbers in the beer tent or 20% overstated, it matters not, it's still a great effort.
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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Expansion team gets poor attendance: "Nobody is interested, its an M62 sport, expansion doesn't work"

Expansion team gets good attendance: "It's fake"

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JC on a bicycle, would you just knock it off with the constant carping about the size of the crowds at Lamport. They outstrip most of the other Championship match attendances by hundreds and thousands and you're still picking nits about the exact count.

Stadium holds 9600 in the seats. There are 500-700 in the beer garden during the game (as one who queued for beer yesterday, I can vouch for personally counting every one of them) and another 100 or so at the south end in the VIP tents and standing.

Find something else to moan about.

As for the result - well we knew it had to happen after the run of wins and all things considered, Fev played a heck of a game and deserved the win in my opinion. We rested some key players, Fev was down some key players, but their speed and defence totally got the better of the Wolfpack. All credit to them. A good lesson for TWPto absorb before the playoffs.

Great turnout of away fans, always a delight to see how many people make the trip. and as always they seemed to be thoroughly enjoying themselves. Even as a TWP fan, it was a treat to see how the team and the fans reacted to the win at the end of the game, obviously made the trip worthwhile all round.

The Featherstone team showed up at the local 3 Brewers pub after the game and got a huge round of applause from Wolfpack fans. We're appreciative like that.

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Quote: HXSparky "There are 12 sections at the Lamport, plus 4 small ones at each end, each with 20 rows of seats, so 8217 would need around 32 spectators on each and every row of each section of the ground (capacity is approx 37 on each). Even allowing for some folk standing behind the posts and in the beer garden, it didn't look anywhere close to that...

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The other misinformation about the Lamport crowd photos is that the west side of the stadium is always fuller than the east side. This has to do with the angle of the sun on hot summer days ... on the west side, the sun is at your back. On the east side, the sun is in your face. The tv camera is on the west side and therefore is showing you the east stadium.

Take it from me, as a TWP fan who has attended every home game except one, that the west side is always fuller than the east side, every game, so basing your counts on east stand photos will always lead you to underestimate. Pro-tip ... east side sections are odd numbered, west side sections are even numbered.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Imagine the crowds when they get promoted!! I for one can’t wait to get over there next season! Well done Toronto, showing the flat cappers what “marketing” means

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Quote: RLRealist "A great crowd Toronto Wolfpack. Smashes every other Championship and L1, plus several SL clubs.

The SLE would be absolute morons to deny TWP SL status. That crowd would be doubled in SL!!'"


Toronto is quite a large city, with a population of only 3 million.

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4000 there, tops. A healthy attendance statement is for marketing and sponsorship purposes.

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Quote: jeffvickers "4000 there, tops. A healthy attendance statement is for marketing and sponsorship purposes.'"


Were you there? No you weren't. So you are just guessing. Sixteen miles barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: pandamonium "Were you there? No you weren't. So you are just guessing. Sixteen miles barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways.'"


Don’t lower yourself to the Leigh trolls.

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Quote: Lebron James "Imagine the crowds when they get promoted!! I for one can’t wait to get over there next season! Well done Toronto, showing the flat cappers what “marketing” means

Regards

King James'"


It won't be many more than yesterday will it, because the grounds not much bigger than that attendance.

Or are they going to build an extension at the beginning of the season so that they can play the first 11 away again

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: ColD "Or are they going to build an extension at the beginning of the season so that they can play the first 11 away again'"
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Quote: Lebron James "Imagine the crowds when they get promoted!! I for one can’t wait to get over there next season! Well done Toronto, showing the flat cappers what “marketing” means

Regards

King James'"


they won't tho so now you can settle down

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