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Quote: homme vaste "Wakefield are sustainable purely from our own income - We have no one pouring money into the club, what comes into the club is what is spent on the squad after all bills are factored in, nothing more. Should our chairman up sticks and leave we would continue as we are.

Huddersfield are propped up by Ken and should he decide to leave the club I can imagine they would struggle in the current situation they are in with there outgoings.'"


Comedy gold

Also from the delusions of a wakey fan. A new stadium coming soon, for free.

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If the RFL were even remotely concerned about Salford, they would have placed them in special measures and restricted any further signings they made.
It doesn't seem like they've done that.

Has this fundraiser been orchestrated by the club officially, or is it one of the club sponsors who are doing this? The article is unclear.

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The thing about being the "next Bradford" is that the Bulls have somehow retained a sizeable core support which enables a plausible longterm route back to the top flight.

Could Salford similarly hope to attract 6,500 in the 3rd division, and if they couldn't what would be the financial basis of their recovery?

Salford dropping out could all too easily spell oblivion and that would be absolutely awful.

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Quote: Code13 "Comedy gold

Also from the delusions of a wakey fan. A new stadium coming soon, for free.'"


What is comedy gold about that? Everything I said is true is it not?

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Quote: Pumpetypump "The thing about being the "next Bradford" is that the Bulls have somehow retained a sizeable core support which enables a plausible longterm route back to the top flight.

Could Salford similarly hope to attract 6,500 in the 3rd division, and if they couldn't what would be the financial basis of their recovery?

Salford dropping out could all too easily spell oblivion and that would be absolutely awful.'"


It's not so much about recovering, but finding your sustainable level.
Without a benefactor, Salford are probably (realistically) only self sufficient as a part time championship side.

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Quote: Nothus "It's not so much about recovering, but finding your sustainable level.
Without a benefactor, Salford are probably (realistically) only self sufficient as a part time championship side.'"


With the rent they have to pay at the AJ bell that is probably true, if they were still at the willows and they had that extra income free to spend on their playing squad then perhaps they could look to compete with other clubs around the bottom end of SL.

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Quote: Nothus "It's not so much about recovering, but finding your sustainable level.
Without a benefactor, Salford are probably (realistically) only self sufficient as a part time championship side.'"


I'd say that's the case for every club bar maybe 3 or 4.

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Quote: Bullseye "I'd say that's the case for every club bar maybe 3 or 4.'"


I'm not sure it's as bad as that. Wakefield continue to demonstrate that it's possible to be competitive in SL without paying over the top for superstars and also without a benefactor's input.
I just think that in quite a few cases, clubs just need to be smarter.

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Quote: caslad75 "The less said about Widnes the better.'"


Not sure what you're implying? Are Widnes dire on the field? Yes. Are Widnes running up massive debts or have a sugar daddy? No, but if you know any please let me know! We have one of the best academies in the country so not sure how it isn't sustainable.

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^^ I didn't suggest Widnes aren't sustainable, but from an outsiders point of view the club looks like it is happy with just being in SL, not adding to the value of it. Investment into community work looks great, investment in youth looks great, but it has to transfer up to the first team. It seems as though all work/investment stops short of investing in the first team to me. Thats only my opinion looking from the outside, but I'm happy to be corrected.

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Quote: Willzay "Sir Kev is already here to stick the knife in like the prize bell end he is.'"


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Quote: Pumpetypump "The thing about being the "next Bradford" is that the Bulls have somehow retained a sizeable core support which enables a plausible longterm route back to the top flight.

Could Salford similarly hope to attract 6,500 in the 3rd division, and if they couldn't what would be the financial basis of their recovery?

Salford dropping out could all too easily spell oblivion and that would be absolutely awful.'"

Salford can’t get half that figure in Super League, that’s the reason their in financial difficulty.

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Quote: caslad75 "^^ I didn't suggest Widnes aren't sustainable, but from an outsiders point of view the club looks like it is happy with just being in SL, not adding to the value of it. Investment into community work looks great, investment in youth looks great, but it has to transfer up to the first team. It seems as though all work/investment stops short of investing in the first team to me. Thats only my opinion looking from the outside, but I'm happy to be corrected.'"


I think it depends on what you call adding value to SL. We have been as competitive as 4 or 5 of the other Super League teams in the last four years. Unfortunately, the coaching / leadership has failed us this year which has resulted in our largest ever loss streak. You could look at this season's three wins and say "Widnes aren't contributing to a competitive game" but we have actually ran a close game (within 12 pts) in at least 12 of our 22 games. I think it's also a little unfair considering we've only really fallen apart this year/last 18 months.

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I think the OP may be stirring something that doesn't need stirring, I can't see anything wrong in asking the fans for a bit of help, we are way under the salary cap so if we have money can spend it, there's nothing wrong with trying our best to keep in super league, in fact going down probably sees an end to us unless we get another sugar daddy.

One thing I will say though if we hadn't followed rugby leagues instructions in "framing the future" and gone all out to get a new stadium we would still be at our spiritual home "The Willows" which the club owned. Maybe the OP should bear that in mind when making such posts as his club under them rules would not be in the promised land.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Salford can’t get half that figure in Super League, that’s the reason their in financial difficulty.'"


No it is not the reason at all, clubs in SL have shown they can be sustainable with similar average crowds to Salford, albeit not compete at the very top... The reason their in financial difficulty is they have been left with a massive wage bill and an extortionate rent agreement at the AJ Bell by a so called fan at the club... Okay he has stepped in and helped them out again in there hour of need but he surely cannot do that forever.

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