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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



I voted for Toulouse and London in front of Toronto because I think we need a team in the capital and we really need another French team

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: HXSparky "Nothing to do with what's best for the game as a whole, just my own selfish view on how I'd like to spend a Sunday afternoon!'"

As a diagnosis as to why we've gone backwards at an alarming rate over the last couple of decades, that's pretty accurate......I empathise with your desire but have to wholeheartedly disagree with it.
I was gutted when London went down and will never forgive the architects of that demise, Hughes and MacKay, but the reality is both SL and the Championship are better for it, because we are competitive in the 2nd tier and not getting tonked week in week out in SL.....So if I was votig in the faux french trolls poll i'd say Toronto and Leigh because they are the only 2 with the resources to stand a chance of staying their...Toulouse are 5 years away from Ready......

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Why stop at Toronto and Toulouse? Timbuktu, Abu Dhabi, the moon?

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Quote: Wexford Trinity "Why stop at Toronto and Toulouse? Timbuktu, Abu Dhabi, the moon?'"


The moon seems to be where you get your ideas and inspiration from.

You are so pathetically an insular flat capper. Toronto and Toulouse have teams and fans. Toronto already have a better business setup and many more fans than woeful Wakefield.

Toronto and Toulouse will bring more corporate money, new fans, TV coverage, and credibility into the game than woeful Wakefield -- or for that matter witless Widnes or silly Salford..

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Tried to vote for Leigh and fev but no joy. My reasons are because I'm go pro m62 and hate expansion.


Well, not quite. Would love to see Cas Fev derby in super league, I reckon fev would hold their own at POR. Also, I think Leigh would be well equipped to super league second time round. They weren't a disaster first time, but I'm sure they'd improve their recruitment. Fev have also made massive marketing progress and have better facilities than a fair few in SL (so do Leigh to be fair).

This is just my opinion of preference, i'd don't wish the other 4 harm at all.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The moon seems to be where you get your ideas and inspiration from.

You are so pathetically an insular flat capper. Toronto and Toulouse have teams and fans. Toronto already have a better business setup and many more fans than woeful Wakefield.

Toronto and Toulouse will bring more corporate money, new fans, TV coverage, and credibility into the game than woeful Wakefield -- or for that matter witless Widnes or silly Salford..'"


Having a rich sugar daddy is not a “better business setup” it’s a short term measure. I’d suggest Wakefield have a far better business setup as we can’t afford to lose money.

As for more tv coverage and investment that keeps getting trotted out by the unicorns and fairies brigade. A peanuts deal to televise games on the country where the majority of your away games are played (which damages the prospect of increasing tv deals in that country) - ie. free sports and Toronto -isn’t breaking the North American market. It’s not even attempting to break the North American market.

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Superleague needs Featherstone and Halifax.

Some proper games like it used to be.

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Quote: Wexford Trinity "Why stop at Toronto and Toulouse? Timbuktu, Abu Dhabi, the moon?'"

Don’t be daft it would take to long to get to the moon and back lol

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I would have voted Leigh *obvs* & Toronto if the Vote function actually worked ....

My reasoning, Leigh finished 11th in SL 2017 & were not disgraced putting some of the biggest SL names to the sword & running others such as Leeds very close. Leigh have the facilities, ambition, supporter base & the finance & plan to be successful as an established SL Club.

Toronto have the start of a solid fan base *despite the obvious lies re the actual number of paying spectators* they have the finance & a plan, it is worth the gamble IMHO to admit TW & see where it goes, but please don't treat us as fools, be honest & say something like 'we are admitting Toronto for the future prospects of growth - deal with it' & ensure they play on as level terms as is humanly possible, without which there is no credibility to the sport, it would just ensure another 2 decades of distrust & ill feeling.

Give TW a shot.

Further to the above, put Fev, Fax, Bradford, London & Toulouse on notice to be SL ready by 2024/2025 as a defined target, at which point only those SL ready will be admitted to an expanded SL structure.

Put Salford, Widnes, Huddersfield & to a lesser degree Wakey on immediate notice to grow their support base & revenue streams or face relegation at the expiration of the current SL contract, KR on notice to strengthen the on field product as they have a SL core support base.

I am guessing some backlash will ensue !

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If the voting mechanism had worked for me I would have voted Toronto and Toulouse because:

(1) Toronto is radical expansion with a whole country and possibly even a whole continent opened up to our game, plus new streams of money from corporations and television in the offing;

(2) Toulouse gives us real expansion in France, being located in France's 4th biggest city, and having a local derby with Catalans likely to excite the whole of southwestern France, plus it makes a lucrative French television contract and expanded TV coverage more likely.

However London is needed and should be the next (third) Super League cab off the rank. Bradford should be not far behind London.

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Personally I'd like to see more Yorkshire sides in SL. Halifax and Featherstone would bring a lot more atmosphere to SL.

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Quote: ScouseViking "Toronto and Toulouse would certainly rejuvenate and light up Super league, in place of Salford and KR would improve the league no end.

Tolouse vs Catalans is a mouth watering prospect to all rugby league fans.'"


And Widnes offer so much more? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Willzay "Personally I'd like to see more Yorkshire sides in SL. Halifax and Featherstone would bring a lot more atmosphere to SL.'"

Isnt this what the pro expansionists don't want though ?
Super League is currently made up of 6 Yorkshire Clubs or 50% of the entire league.
4 from West Yorkshire
2 from Humberside icon_wink.gif
2 from GREATEST MANCHESTER icon_wink.gif
2 from Cheshire
1 from Merseyside
1 from France

The admission of Fax & Fev would need to be balanced with the admission of London & Toulouse + Bradford & Leigh giving ....

7 from West Yorkshire
2 from Humberside icon_wink.gif
3 from GREATEST MANCHESTER icon_wink.gif
2 from Cheshire
1 from Merseyside
2 from France
1 from some little poxy village down south !

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "If the voting mechanism had worked for me I would have voted Toronto and Toulouse because

oh dreary me.....do you not get bored typing your constant anti M62 **** ?

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Wont let me vote

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