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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Little Ivor "Confused why the number of languages spoken there makes it a hole?'"

elsewhere on the planet, those people from differing tribes and regions have through the process of social development and basic evolution, merged,mingled and in the vast majority of cases, got on with each other. PNG is as close to pre-historic as you can get and if it weren't for the rich veins of minerals, gas and Oil, it would be un-populated by any civilised beings.
Ireland, Scotland Wales and England all have their own "languages" but also use a common one to communicate....PNG isn't like the British Isles at all.....in fact it's like no other place on earth!
I repeat...claiming PNG as a hotbed of RL is akin to claiming prison is a hotbed for UFC. You don't have to agree with my viewpoint but it's worth asking that of the successful PNG Hunters side from last year, how many are in the starting 17's of NRL/SL sides this year......aggression and violence are part of our sport, but there is so much more to it than that, but it is the aggression and violence that attracts PNGians to the game......not a good look!

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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings".. Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything. Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986) The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget The Naive Forgive And Forget The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900) One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph. virginia woolf (1882-1941):icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif



Quote: Call Me God "As Bramley Rhino has already steered you to the UK site that says it's like a safari park in Hertfordshire (wind your windows up)'"


Still not on any official lists of top TEN places Never to go ever.........

Foreign Office advises against travel to
Afghanistan, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Central African Republic, Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Palestinian territories, Somalia, South Sudan, Syria, Yemen

Foreign Office advises against travel to parts of
Algeria, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Burma (Myanmar), Cameroon, Colombia, Djibouti, Ecuador, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Georgia, Haiti, India, Iran, Israel, Ivory Coast, Jordan, Kenya, Kosovo, Lebanon, Madagascar, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, Venezuela, Western Sahara

In fact it doesn't even get a mention.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Salford red all over "Still not on any official lists of top TEN places Never to go ever.........
In fact it doesn't even get a mention.'"

Good for you......jog on to the travel agency and book your flights then
rlhttps://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid
rlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/papua-protests-payback/tourists-expats-hunker-down-in-png-amid-violence-idUSL4N19032Qrl
rlhttp://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/pacific/Pages/papua_new_guinea.aspxrl

....personally, I'll settle for Fiji and a sandy beach with no chance of being shot by a bow and arrow whilst my better half is sexually assaulted!
rlhttps://www.smh.com.au/world/man-shot-with-bow-and-arrow-protecting-girlfriend-20110704-1gy17.htmlrl

It's a friggin war-zone......and any wealth the country has gets dug up and shipped out to 'stralia in an instant......£2,474.22...that's the average income of a PNG citizen.....less than £50 a week....it's a rich cultural environment HONEST.....rlhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id

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Yes we all remember the riots, slaughter in the streets, attacks on the visiting teams during the World Cup. Not forgetting the Intrust Cup teams that always come back robbed and bleeding.

They must have happened because some experts on here have seen it from their bedrooms thousands of miles away.

There has been some spectacularly ill informed garbage on here. For all the law and order problems in PNG visiting RL teams are invariably given the warmest of welcomes and the only problem they face is getting a bit of peace and quiet from the numerous well wishers.

In particular ignore the utter tripe put out by the Australian High Comm which houses a bunch of ill informed self serving cowards who hide in their fortress and big up the dangers to boost their pay.

It's great that an England team are going. It should be a good experience for the players, it will be good for the sport in PNG as well. In any case to those denigrating PNG, it may make you feel superior but as a country is PNG worse than the fascist dictatorships RU has supported through its history or the human rights abusing countries Formula 1 seems to love so much these days?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Erik the not red "Yes we all remember the riots, slaughter in the streets, attacks on the visiting teams during the World Cup. Not forgetting the Intrust Cup teams that always come back robbed and bleeding.'"

It's a sh17 hole.....sorry to confirm this, but it really is.......and claiming RL is #1 there isn't a good thing......I promise you!

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It's always had its problems. Tear Gas Test of 1990 anyone?

But the England team will get a warm welcome and provided they follow the travel advice they'll be safe. It'll be a great life experience for them too and create some bonds that will last for life. You can't beat a good tour.

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Quote: Call Me God "It's a sh17 hole.....sorry to confirm this, but it really is.......and claiming RL is #1 there isn't a good thing......I promise you!'"


So you have been there, know people who live there, actually met and talked with the local population?

Your ignorant drivel suggests you haven't.

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Wow.
Cant believe the negativity regarding the Knights "tour" of PNG.
Some reward for PNG's efforts in the world cup and some excellent experience for the players who are lucky enough to get selected.

There may be some issues with certain areas within PNG but, you would think that the organisers, both from PNG and England, may just be aware of this and they are sure to take every precaution to ensure player safety etc.

In our modern world, there are too many people who read something negative and assume that we're all doomed.

As I said, what a great opportunity for the squad.

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Quote: Erik the not red "So you have been there, know people who live there, actually met and talked with the local population?

Your ignorant drivel suggests you haven't.'"


Ive been there and I actually found New Zealand far more intimidating. I felt far safer in PNG than I did NZ

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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings".. Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything. Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986) The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget The Naive Forgive And Forget The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900) One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph. virginia woolf (1882-1941):icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif



Quote: Call Me God "Good for you......jog on to the travel agency and book your flights then'"


Whats up fella ? the fact it isn't on any list of top Ten places never to visit EVER doesn't fit in with your agenda .

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Well if it stops the likes of you coming to Hull, then its a good thing.

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Quote: Lebron James "Ive been there and I actually found New Zealand far more intimidating. I felt far safer in PNG than I did NZ

Regards

King James'"



That's because you're known in NZ but not in PNG. They'll soon learn.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Erik the not red "So you have been there, know people who live there, actually met and talked with the local population?

Your ignorant drivel suggests you haven't.'"


Buddy, I don't have to stick my fingers into a meat grinder to know that it's going to hurt......same goes for PNG not being a particularly safe place to visit. As for "ignorant drivel", why is it that facts so upset so many people when it comes to RL?
rlhttps://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/papua-new-guinearl

Quote: Erik the not red "Ive been there and I actually found New Zealand far more intimidating. I felt far safer in PNG than I did NZ
Regards
King James'"

rlhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/92210672/Wellington-beats-Edinburgh-and-Melbourne-to-be-named-best-place-in-the-world-to-liverl
Regards
GOD

Quote: Erik the not red "Whats up fella ? the fact it isn't on any list of top Ten places never to visit EVER doesn't fit in with your agenda .'"

Firstly, I have no "agenda" but nothing like a good old conspiracy theory eh....and secondly, anywhere that requires the following advice to be given is most assuredly on a list of places not to visit.... rlhttps://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/papua-new-guinea/safety-and-securityrl
Quote: Erik the not red "If you have to travel at night, do so by car, with doors locked and windows up, and travel in convoy or with a security escort.'"


Top 10 you say? OK rlhttps://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid
Quote: Erik the not red "Port Moresby ranks 136 of 140 countries in the Economist Intelligence Unit’s livability index (August 2016), with a score indicating that “most aspects of living are severely restricted.” It is sixth on their list of the 10 least livable cities.'"


Damn those pesky facts eh....

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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings".. Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything. Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986) The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget The Naive Forgive And Forget The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900) One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph. virginia woolf (1882-1941):icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif



Quote: Call Me God "Buddy, I don't have to stick my fingers into a meat grinder to know that it's going to hurt......same goes for PNG not being a particularly safe place to visit. As for "ignorant drivel", why is it that facts so upset so many people when it comes to RL?
rlhttps://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/papua-new-guinearl

rlhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/92210672/Wellington-beats-Edinburgh-and-Melbourne-to-be-named-best-place-in-the-world-to-liverl
Regards
GOD

Firstly, I have no "agenda" but nothing like a good old conspiracy theory eh....and secondly, anywhere that requires the following advice to be given is most assuredly on a list of places not to visit.... rlhttps://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/papua-new-guinea/safety-and-securityrl
Top 10 you say? OK rlhttps://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid
Damn those pesky facts eh....'"


The only conspiracist is you, stop back tracking you said it was one of the top ten places not to visit EVER. It isn't .

Dam those pesky facts either put up or shut up.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Salford red all over "The only conspiracist is you, stop back tracking you said it was one of the top ten places not to visit EVER. It isn't .

Dam those pesky facts either put up or shut up.'"


rlhttps://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid
Quote: Salford red all over " It is sixth on their list of the 10 least livable cities.'"

Now I know it's grim up north, but does being#6 on a list of the 10 least livable cities make you want to run to thomas cook and book your family holiday there?
The Daily Heil list Port Moresby in their ten worst cities rlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2786687/the-10-worst-cities-world-holiday-revealed.htmlrl

You keep asking for lists where the total figure is 10 and includes PNG and I'll keep posting them for you.....the claim is that it is one of the top 10 places not to visit ever and I stand by that, with links to various government and media websites agreeing with my opinion....you just express your alternate view but with a surprising lack of data to back it up.

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