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| Quote: Bullseye "Even if Catalans stay up maybe average crowds in the Championship won't fall all that much because of the skewed effect of Toronto's home fixtures if they're getting 6-7k and rising? If Catalans come down they'll probably still bring in 4-5k for their home games.
Could be chaotic booking flights for the middle 8s. Getting part time players to take all that time off for 2 extra overseas away fixtures too may be a problem.'"
It was a big problem for Barrow Raiders who had to play at Toronto twice this season, players were having to take 6 days holiday leave from there jobs on top of working visa problems. |
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| Quote: Fax Machine "If so, they need to decide quickly during the closed season. We need to know what we are playing for at the beginning of the season.'"
 We do - because if not it leads to all sorts of rumour mongering and tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists making stuff up.
Seriously though, it surely can't be beyond the wit of the clubs and RFL to agree some structures and stability for a few years can it? If every club knew where it stood you would get more chance to do proper long term planning (unheard of in RL). |
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| Quote: Fax Machine "I suspect that, as usual, the RFL and SL will wait until 75% of the season has gone and then change the rules to fit their hidden agenda in order to assist their favoured teams and restrict the others.'"
When did this happen? Can you give some examples? |
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They need to set there stall out now as teams will be preparing for next year. Some teams buy in and strengthen just before the 8's, if there is no 8's and its a straight P&R then teams will change there strategy. That's just one example.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "When did this happen? Can you give some examples?'"
Come on, there is one very obvious example but, the plan failed spectacularly. |
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Who is it?
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The Championship looks an exciting competition next year, it's a shame Bradford won't get be apart of it. Hopefully Sky or another broadcaster gives it some coverage.
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We don't deserve to be in it next season and the last thing we need is to be kept in it again like last year.
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I wasn't suggesting Bradford should be kept in the Championship, I was just saying it's a shame your not going to be in alongside some other big clubs like, London, Toronto, Toulouse + the MPG loser.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Whether clubs should rely on away numbers is not really the issue.
It's the "hit" that each club in the Championship will take, both on their income and expenditure.
I know that you can understand this but, you appear not to want to acknowledge the fact.
I've said on many other threads that it's great to have some of the expansion clubs on board BUT if, all we are doing is increasing costs, without getting some additional revenue, we are, largely, wasting our time.
However, IF there is significantly more income from sponsorship, say from French / Canadian TV or advertising then great, lets fill our collective boots.
Personally, we should have Toronto and possibly Toulouse in SL, where clubs are better placed to stand the additional costs and we should be re-negotiating the TV deal to reflect the greater "draw" of these clubs.
However, the current structure, which is certainly to remain, for now, doesn't really allow for this.'"
It's down to the clubs to increase home support and market better. Most clubs including super league are terrible at marketing their own teams. |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Come on, there is one very obvious example but, the plan failed spectacularly.'"
I'm intrigued by this very obvious example too. Was it recent? |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "I'm intrigued by this very obvious example too. Was it recent?'"
Does the word "iconic" mean anything to you  |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Does the word "iconic" mean anything to you ![]()
What rules did they change 75% of the way through the season?
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They brought back relegation in 2014. Quite the opposite of what is being alluded to.
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| Quote: Bullseye "
Put like that, it sounds so simple.
Unfortunately, RL spends too much time with gimmicks (sorry, being innovative  ) and the sport seems wholly incapable of making any decent long term decisions.
People are starting to get used to the 3 x 8 system but, it wont allow the "expansion" clubs to flourish so, we may well end up with another change ??
It's mickey poor that only 3 years ago, before the new structure was implemented, that NOBODY at the RFL could see the problem on the horizon.
We want to be everything to everybody, instead of working out the best way to take the sport forward and then getting on with it.
Where do we want to be in 5 years, 10 years and 20 years time ?
Right now, we will either get lucky and have some success with the North American "experiment and miraculously start to attract some major sponsors into the game, although it would be akin to throwing 6 double sixes in a row or, despite trying to expand, we risk shrinking the professional game in the UK still further.
Are we hoping that if/when Toronto make it into SL, suddenly it will allow us to harvest the money tree because, in terms of added value and cash contribution, it's really unclear just what they will bring to the game.
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