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Quote: number 6 "Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.

Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?'"



It makes you think that way. Talk of Wigan and Warrington playing in Oz next year yet neither have qualified'"


That's not what he's said.

Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.

Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627

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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”

Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627

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Seems quite popular these days.
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Quote: number 6 "Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.

Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?'"



It makes you think that way. Talk of Wigan and Warrington playing in Oz next year yet neither have qualified'"


That's not what he's said.

Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.

Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627

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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”

Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627

But once again, let's have a pop without checking the full facts.
Seems quite popular these days.


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Quote: Jukesays "That's not what he's said.

Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.

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in the first link on the previous page, lenagan said that wigan and warrington have already had discussions about playing the opening round of SL in OZ next season, if for some way, neither qualify for the WCS or WCC then will they still go ahead?

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Quote: Jukesays "That's not what he's said.

Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.

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Don't confuse them with facts, they'd rather have their own agenda, even if it is completely off the mark. eusa_snooty.gif

It's strange now that fans are only just realising what a visionary and leader Mo Lindsay was. Look at the crowds we were getting back in the late 1980's into the 1990's for the International games and how big the sponsorship deals were. I remember going on a GB supporters tour to Aus in 1992 and there must have been 10K Gb fans over.

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Quote: number 6 "in the first link on the previous page, lenagan said that wigan and warrington have already had discussions about playing the opening round of SL in OZ next season, if for some way, neither qualify for the WCS or WCC then will they still go ahead?'"


The Canberra times piece looks a bit dodgy to me. It quotes heterington 99% and then there's a throwaway couple of lines from an Ian leneghan interview that took place in Wigan yesterday (full article on my link).

Either way he says he tried to arrange the 2017 game for Oz like he did with the 2014.
He also wanted to take a SL game 2017 with Warrington (if the RFL had arranged the fixtures etc. That way) as Warrington were keen on being involved. I guess it would have been a good way to prep for the WCC game of it had been in Oz for both teams.

He says they are also looking into possibilities for 2018 but to suggest they're putting the cart before the horse is way off the mark.
If they don't qualify they're interested in any potential game/opening round involvement.

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We need to play the WCC and the WCS two weeks after the Australian Grand Final --third weekend in October -- alternating in Australia or Britain, and have the inter-national contests start a week later (which is roughly when they start at the moment).

To make the preparation time roughly equal we will need to have the Super League Grand Final on the same weekend as the NRL Grand Final.

Playing SL GF at 2.30 pm on a Saturday, first Saturday in October, at Old Trafford it can be telecast live at 11.30 pm on Saturday night in Australia, thereby making it a prelude to the NRL Grand Final and heightening anticipation of the upcoming WCC and WCS..

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Trying to hold it two weeks after the respective GF's has so many logistical problems it's unbelievable people suggest it.

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You gotta wonder how we managed to play an international tournament 3weeks after the grand final without someones head exploding from these unbelievable logistical problems really.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You gotta wonder how we managed to play an international tournament 3weeks after the grand final without someones head exploding from these unbelievable logistical problems really.'"


Are the participants of the international tournament still undecided until 2 weeks beforehand?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Are the participants of the international tournament still undecided until 2 weeks beforehand?'"

Well the participants as in the players are yes, the participants as in the teams? Well they are undecided until a week before the final, we dont seem to struggle to organise that.

Is it really a logistical nightmare to book a stadium and block book a hotel for a certain date? it doesnt take two weeks to book a flight. Especially considering if we simply held it in the city/stadium where the 'away' nations first international was being played (only a week later) then a fair amount of the players would already be there anyway.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Well the participants as in the players are yes, the participants as in the teams? Well they are undecided until a week before the final, we dont seem to struggle to organise that.

Is it really a logistical nightmare to book a stadium and block book a hotel for a certain date? it doesnt take two weeks to book a flight. Especially considering if we simply held it in the city/stadium where the 'away' nations first international was being played (only a week later) then a fair amount of the players would already be there anyway.'"


Oh great we'll just play it in the same city and stadium as the first international.

Be great when England vs Australia is booked for Wembley or ANZ Stadium and then Castleford and Melbourne win the Grand Finals.

Given RL's struggles to market and sell tickets we are now staying let's take this event and give just them a two week window to pull it off, especially after fans will have just splashed out on a GF.....yeah sure it'll be as successful.

One of the big arguments for doing it straight after is that it'd be the GF lineups. But would it really? Would we just see the Aussie team go back to 10+ years ago and see it as an inconvenience and leave out the several guys who will no doubt have knocks and need off season surgery? How patched up have Wigan and Leeds been in the last two GF's? Very patched up. You'd just start an argument that it isn't either teams strongest 17.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Don't confuse them with facts, they'd rather have their own agenda, even if it is completely off the mark. You sure about all that?

Isn't the prevailing ideology that everything prior to Super League and summer rugby was rubbish?

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Wigan played Manly in 1987 in front of almost 37,000 fans just 10 days after the 1987 Aussie Grand Final had been played.

Widnes played Canberra in 1989 in front of over 30,000 fans just 10 days after the 1989 Aussie Grand Final.

Wigan played Penrith in 1991 in front of over 20,000 fans just 10 days after the 1991 Aussie Grand Final had been played.

How on earth did they manage to overcome such logistical nightmares back then?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Oh great we'll just play it in the same city and stadium as the first international.

Be great when England vs Australia is booked for Wembley or ANZ Stadium and then Castleford and Melbourne win the Grand Finals.

Given RL's struggles to market and sell tickets we are now staying let's take this event and give just them a two week window to pull it off, especially after fans will have just splashed out on a GF.....yeah sure it'll be as successful.

One of the big arguments for doing it straight after is that it'd be the GF lineups. But would it really? Would we just see the Aussie team go back to 10+ years ago and see it as an inconvenience and leave out the several guys who will no doubt have knocks and need off season surgery? How patched up have Wigan and Leeds been in the last two GF's? Very patched up. You'd just start an argument that it isn't either teams strongest 17.'"

icon_lol.gif So the logistics werent that hard really were they.

Whats next on ThePrinter's scatter gun?
Castleford may play Melbourne? Brilliant. That would be a good thing

RL fans are poor and can't afford tickets after splashing out on the charabanc to the tropical delights of Manchester? RL fans arent poor.

That the Aussies would no longer take it seriously because of the change in timing? What kind of idiot coach would rather rest players who have knocks and see it as more of an inconvenience to have it played when they have 0 games coming up as opposed to when they have an entire season of games coming up?

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: William Eve "Wigan played Manly in 1987 in front of almost 37,000 fans just 10 days after the 1987 Aussie Grand Final had been played.

Widnes played Canberra in 1989 in front of over 30,000 fans just 10 days after the 1989 Aussie Grand Final.

Wigan played Penrith in 1991 in front of over 20,000 fans just 10 days after the 1991 Aussie Grand Final had been played.

How on earth did they manage to overcome such logistical nightmares back then?'"


How much preparation did Wigan/Widnes have for these fixtures?

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