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| Quote: Him "If the defender isn't taking part in play it should be play on just like when running at an offside but retreating defender.
If the defender is obviously interfering with play then it should be a penalty whether the ball is passed at him or not.'"
No,At the ptb, that defender knows whether the ball could be played on that line. He has enough time to try and get out of the way or don't get in that position in the first place.
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| Quote: Cokey "No,At the ptb, that defender knows whether the ball could be played on that line. He has enough time to try and get out of the way or don't get in that position in the first place.'"
I think Him is quoting a rule - whereas you're expressing an opinion.
The ref does have discretion - as Him has suggested - to allow play on if the defender is not interfering in play.
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| Ok so while we're discussing cynical cheating , Cas seem to have discovered another , when the opposition full back is taking a high ball rather than run round the oppositions other defenders they push them into the full back , they did this several times on Friday and actually scored off one of these in the second half , should have been a penalty for Leigh
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| We saw a couple of instances last year where the tackler is injured, they play the ball a metre forward but throw out the pass into the injured player.
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Ok so while we're discussing cynical cheating , Cas seem to have discovered another , when the opposition full back is taking a high ball rather than run round the oppositions other defenders they push them into the full back , they did this several times on Friday and actually scored off one of these in the second half , should have been a penalty for Leigh'"
When teams surround the FB with "blockers" it's difficult to know what you should do.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "When teams surround the FB with "blockers" it's difficult to know what you should do.'"
No it's not , you run round them , the rules are simple , as long as the ' blockers ' as you call them are not moving sideways to obstruct the advancing tacklers they are not doing anything wrong , if they do move sideways , the ref will give an obstruction
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| Quote: Judder Man "We saw a couple of instances last year where the tackler is injured, they play the ball a metre forward but throw out the pass into the injured player.'"
What was the outcome Judds?
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| Quote: GUBRATS "No it's not , you run round them , the rules are simple , as long as the ' blockers ' as you call them are not moving sideways to obstruct the advancing tacklers they are not doing anything wrong , if they do move sideways , the ref will give an obstruction'"
Except that, refs, both here and in the NRL, hardly ever do. Considering how strict they are with so-called obstruction by dummy runners when a try is being scored, and yet defending side s seem to get way with murder.
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| Quote: moto748 "Except that, refs, both here and in the NRL, hardly ever do. Considering how strict they are with so-called obstruction by dummy runners when a try is being scored, and yet defending side s seem to get way with murder.'"
So it is the refs issue , ive no problem with it , if the refs are going to allow tacklers to push ' blockers ' into the full back then fine we'll have to do it as well
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| mcillorum did it in the grand final 2015. I hate it. its blatant cheating
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| Quote: cas all the way "I fully understand if you are moving in a way of a pass and it hits you but to be stood still and get the ball thrown at you. Shouldnt be a penalty. Its just a way for teams to get out of trouble.'"
True.
Our hooker Liam Hood did it to you last Friday, while it benefitted us, I don't like it.
Refs need to make the call, intentional or not.
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| Quote: tad rhino "mcillorum did it in the grand final 2015. I hate it. its blatant cheating'"
Bit him on the ar5e though as they took the 2 points but that gave us a break and chance to have a breather. We looked dead on our feet in that set.
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| Quote: Cokey "What was the outcome Judds?'"
Penalty every time, I think. Mcllorum did it quite a few times. One instant was a head knock with a blood wound ref should have stopped play but awarded penalty first for obstructing the PTB then stopped play for the injury.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Penalty every time, I think. Mcllorum did it quite a few times. One instant was a head knock with a blood wound ref should have stopped play but awarded penalty first for obstructing the PTB then stopped play for the injury.'"
Well in that case, the ref got it wrong.
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| Detest it. The dummy half could easily turn around and pass/run the other way.
Goes against the spirit of the game and anyone doing should be told to "play on"!
Also players stopping and looking or shouting at the ref wanting a penalty or holding ten fingers up to say "send him to the bin ref", and diving/feigning injury, oh and arguing with/swearing at the officials.
Come on lads, you aren't Wendyballers but your pathetic gamesmanship is making you look like those pathetic excuse for sportsmen from that sport.
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