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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: wrencat1873 "Tbf, I think Powell was saying that, if we want to beat the Aussies we need to do something different.
It wasn't a direct criticism of how England (or certain clubs) play the game, just that there may be another way to get the right result.
He may be right and he may not be but, his philosophy was to try and win games playing an open attacking brand of RL.

I dont see where the problem is.

Maybe, he is putting down an early marker to be Bennett's successor and, in fairness, there is only Powell or Wane of the current SL coaches that you would consider for the job.'"


Why would you consider Powell? Because of entertaining style? If he became England boss, losing to Australia in an 'entertaining' style wouldn't cut it. Like I said he does have the luxury of being at a club that doesn't expect success so not the same pressure to win as a Wigan, Leeds or Saints.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



I'm surprised cas didn't try to sign Greg Bird and Ben Barba

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Brian McDermott will be the next England coach IMO

Daryll Powell will be at Cas for years as he is in a no trophy wins, no sack club

His only chance of silverware there is in the challenge cup realistically and that depends on getting favourable draws along the way.
DP's style of coaching and letting his side play an entertaining style of rugby will never get the club a GF win though if they can't tighten their turnstile like defense

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Rhinos 22 Wigan 20 "Brian McDermott will be the next England coach IMO

Daryll Powell will be at Cas for years as he is in a no trophy wins, no sack club

His only chance of silverware there is in the challenge cup realistically and that depends on getting favourable draws along the way.
DP's style of coaching and letting his side play an entertaining style of rugby will never get the club a GF win though if they can't tighten their turnstile like defense'"


Spot on really. Cas had the 2nd worst defence in the regular season, even worst than Leeds who were dreadful and around 200 points more than the top 4. Defence wins titles, just look at the score lines of last years finals. When it comes to crunch time finals aren't decided by a 36-30 score line. Just because people find them entertaining doesn't mean they'll be successful and unless the league starts awarding bonus points for artistic merit then going on about their style is pointless in terms of their ability to win silverware.

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Cas still finished 5th despite having (yes I'm going to say it) consistently the worst run with injuries all season. I genuinely believe we will improve boat loads this year, starting with defence. I'm the most optimistic I've ever been for a season as a Cas fan and have confidence in Powell. Though I agree somewhat, that silverware is a measure of success so we need to win something, I think we can this year.

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'There's only one code of rugby.':



Quote: Rhinos 22 Wigan 20 "Brian McDermott will be the next England coach IMO'"


I hope not - most overrated coach in SL history. Recent success Leeds have had was more to do with the players than coach imo.

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Those that think Cas won't be serious challengers because of their style of play no nothing about sport let alone Rugby League, you will be eating humble pie at the end of the year, Class & Steel!

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: mrpurfect "Those that think Cas won't be serious challengers because of their style of play no nothing about sport let alone Rugby League, you will be eating humble pie at the end of the year, Class & Steel!'"


I know Rugby League is about attack AND DEFENCE. Too many people are judging Cas on attack alone. Takes both sides....attack and defence to win titles.

And I'm not saying they won't be serious challengers but still plenty ahead of them in that queue. Quite a lot putting them down for CC winners.....AKA 'not good enough to win the league but I like them' vote. Could easily be away to Wire or Wigan and dumped out early doors in that competition.

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Quote: mrpurfect "Those that think Cas won't be serious challengers because of their style of play no nothing about sport let alone Rugby League, you will be eating humble pie at the end of the year, Class & Steel!'"


I think we'll do okay this season but don't get cocky mate, we've only played friendlies so far.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I know Rugby League is about attack AND DEFENCE. Too many people are judging Cas on attack alone. Takes both sides....attack and defence to win titles.

And I'm not saying they won't be serious challengers but still plenty ahead of them in that queue. Quite a lot putting them down for CC winners.....AKA 'not good enough to win the league but I like them' vote. Could easily be away to Wire or Wigan and dumped out early doors in that competition.'"


And what precludes any team from having an exciting expansive attack and a good efficient defence ?

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Quote: GUBRATS "And what precludes any team from having an exciting expansive attack and a good efficient defence ?'"


Nothing precludes them.....Cas just haven't shown they have title winning defence. Warrington racked up more points than Cas but conceded a couple hundred fewer.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Nothing precludes them.....Cas just haven't shown they have title winning defence. Warrington racked up more points than Cas but conceded a couple hundred fewer.'"


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I don't think it's a case of just being able to defend (though that is a big part of it) as much of a case of being able to change mindset and style when crunch time comes around.

When Leeds one the treble the other year, our offense was the high point in the regular season, with defence that was ok, but certainly not stingy (from memory and personal impression, stats may say different). But when crunch time came round we were able to change our style and tighten everything up. I'm not sure Cas have that yet, and only playoff experience can really teach that. It's why teams like Wigan and Leeds and Melbourne don't tend to get written off.

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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "I don't think it's a case of just being able to defend (though that is a big part of it) as much of a case of being able to change mindset and style when crunch time comes around.

When Leeds one the treble the other year, our offense was the high point in the regular season, with defence that was ok, but certainly not stingy (from memory and personal impression, stats may say different). But when crunch time came round we were able to change our style and tighten everything up. I'm not sure Cas have that yet, and only playoff experience can really teach that. It's why teams like Wigan and Leeds and Melbourne don't tend to get written off.'"


That is spot on. Cas if they were to get to a GF or CC aren't going to win it by racking up 30+ points. Like I pointed out Warrington scored more last year and managed 10 points in the CC and 6 in the GF. When Leeds were free scoring under Tony Smith we competed in GF's that ended 16-8 and 6-15.

Until Cas show they can win games like that then I don't know why people are so confident in them winning silverware.

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