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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



First past the post! That is all.

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I made this point last year. The top 8 isn't strong enough so you end up with teams who finish 6th and below basically playing for nothing come the super 8's.

Every minute doesn't matter as these teams cannot make the top 4.

Should the points be reset to 0? Probably not as yes teams would take foot gas once top 8 confirmed.

But the current format doesn't work either at the top of the bottom.

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing a straight top 5/6 in a straight playoff series.

As for the bottom. No championship team will ever get promoted under current format.

That's the hard truth

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There will never be a league where every single team is in contention until the end, that absolutely ridiculous. Teams like Widnes need to focus on getting better so they have a chance rather than crying about the system. We already have the salary cap which is slowly bringing the top teams to the quality of the bottom teams. Now those same teams want the competition changing to suit them too.

Unbelievable.

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As Bilko pointed out on Twitter, imagine if Leeds had scraped into 8th and then the points were reset.

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Quote: barham red "Not sure about Radford but my FC supporting mate was very vocal about resetting points last year, doesn't seem too keen on that idea now, not sure why.'"


Was he as vocal as your chairman when he wanted a 10 team league a few years ago? Hasn't mentioned it lately, not sure why.

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It's simple:
If a club wants a shot at trophies, they need to focus on improving on-field performances rather than trying to manipulate the rules.

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Quote: CM Punk "As Bilko pointed out on Twitter, imagine if Leeds had scraped into 8th and then the points were reset.'"


Would have made it interesting though icon_biggrin.gif and we have already embraced a system where the top club in the league doesn't usually become Champions.

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I'll admit I don't particularly like the system. Button the same time changing it every couple of years won't get us anywhere.

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Half agree with him, reset the points but give 1st, 2nd and 3rd some bonus points. Finish first get say 6 points to start.... Second get 4 and third gets 2. Plus it does reward the best as they get 1 of only 3 domestic trophies on offer.

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This is one step below Leigh and Featherstone fans a couple of years ago demanding that the RFL give them money for no reason.

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He would say that wouldn't he with his team completely out of the running. Think of it this way, you are completely off the pace come the split, your miles behind and cant mathematically qualify for the play-offs? What do you think the other 23 games were for, amassing points so that you aren't miles off the pace! It isn't the systems fault Widnes are done this year, it is the fact that they haven't been good enough throughout the year. If they had won more games then they would be closer to the teams at the top that had won loads of games. It is very simple.

Putting all the points back to zero is essentially saying you were rubbish but now you get a chance to win a league that last week you were 20 points off the top of or some such number.

This is why this system was brought in in the first place, so teams cant win the thing from 8th. Resetting the points is essentially saying they can again.

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I think yes we should have promotion and demotion but it should be bottom team of super league v top of champ league home and away winner takes all

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I have to agree and my team aren't even in it. It's surely got to be about making the Super 8's more interesting rather than providing an easy passage (baring a monumental slip up) for the highest finishing clubs. It's a step back in wrong direction with meaningless fixtures like we had in the past.

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I would go back to franchising, start with 12 teams with a top 6 playoff. The twelve teams should be the 12 strongest from the get go, no one is guaranteed an in, which should give teams like Leigh, Feath possibly Tolouse and Toronto if they meet the criteria a fair crack of getting in.

Clubs should be assessed bi-anually, if they don't meet the strict criteria (Off field solidity, competitive on field, bringing through own players). They get replaced with someone who is. If we end up with more than 12 teams meeting that criteria, then we can look at expanding.

The 2 small changes id like to see happen as its highly unlikely they ever will, is to reduce the Overseas quota to 5 and make it purely Non-Fed trained so there are no loopholes, and put some sort of transfer deadline in.

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