| FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Has this ever been a rule? |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 31082 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
Not to mention the marker striking at the ball
I miss that rule
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 122 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2017 | Jan 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
Laughing Gravy: |
|
|
Playing the ball to yourself is a rule that should never have gone out - striking at the ball was legal too - so all this talk about quick play the balls is nonsense cos if your marker was ready to strike you made sure you played the ball properly AND quickly too
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Owner | 1365 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2003 | 21 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
5177_1611486199.png
Category 3:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5177.png |
|
|
I remember the rule. I just remember that you could only do this if you had no marker and that was always where the confusion was. To some refs the marker had to be exactly square or the player could play it to themselves, to others being somewhere in the general location of the tackle meant that they were square and therefore a marker. If they weren't exactly square they were out of play and got penalised for making a tackle. Too much room for individual interpretation and best left alone in my opinion. Same with raking at the play the ball.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 7594 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2021 | May 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
8_1434361123.jpg
When my club didn't exist it was still bigger than yours:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8.jpg |
|
| Quote: Code13 "Not to mention the marker striking at the ball
I miss that rule'"
I kinda do too. There was only really Ian Roberts who did it when it was outlawed. It's not like there was a pressing need to get rid. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 1468 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
One of my faves was knocking the hands or arms of the dummy half from 1st marker (and them knocking on/fluffing pass) but refs seemed to deem this illegal around 2000 ish which I often asked which part of the laws of the game stated this if you're square when the ball is played.
I always thought striking at the ball at the PTB was too advantageous to the defending team
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 15448 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
|
| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "One of my faves was knocking the hands or arms of the dummy half from 1st marker (and them knocking on/fluffing pass) but refs seemed to deem this illegal around 2000 ish which I often asked which part of the laws of the game stated this if you're square when the ball is played.
I always thought striking at the ball at the PTB was too advantageous to the defending team'"
I'm pretty sure this is still legal as long as you are square and not on the goal line. Otherwise why bring in the rule last year that you couldn't do it on the goal line? |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 862 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2021 | Dec 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
The quick tap when unmarked was OK, release the ball and tap and pickup - it was certainly still in the rules in the early 90s but died around the time super league happened. The ball now has to be played backwards, making the attempt to play the ball with the foot - in theory a roll backwards of 1mm and a pickup and run is OK but I can guarantee that no ref will see it that way.
Striking was also OK, as long as there were no hands on the ball. The time to get in an do this was very limited and if the attacking players hand was on the ball it was illegal and deemed interference.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 2024 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2022 | Jan 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
|
Couple of things:
Striking for the ball - I hated this, plenty of times some fcker would scrape their studs down your hand when trying to do rake it back or to kick your hand when trying to welly the ball and force the acting half to knock on. Glad this went away.
Playing Ball to yourself - what puzzles me is when an attacker thinks the tackle has been completed, tries a quick PTB and then gets penalised for it - since I don't really understand what they have done wrong(in terms of rules infringement) since they've just placed the ball on the ground and rolled it back. Suppose it muddles up the game/tacklecount, and defenders may not attempt to tackle if within the 10m - but a clear "all onside, play-on" call from referee would make it obvious.
Re - Original question - yes players often tried the quick tap to themselves when close to the line, especially if they'd just been caught during a breakaway - I didn't really understand why they got rid of it - apart from trying to slow the PTB down.
Its a bit like the weird rule that an attacking player has to throw the ball in from the sideline, to their team-mate following a penalty touchfinder i.e. prior to the tap restart. The person taking the restart tap just use to get the ball from the touchjudge / ballboy in the "old days". Never understood this one - since effectively the attacking team "loses" a player for that set.
This site (albeit NRL focussed) outlines some of the rule changes:
dazrl.awardspace.info/h_rules.htm |
|
Couple of things:
Striking for the ball - I hated this, plenty of times some fcker would scrape their studs down your hand when trying to do rake it back or to kick your hand when trying to welly the ball and force the acting half to knock on. Glad this went away.
Playing Ball to yourself - what puzzles me is when an attacker thinks the tackle has been completed, tries a quick PTB and then gets penalised for it - since I don't really understand what they have done wrong(in terms of rules infringement) since they've just placed the ball on the ground and rolled it back. Suppose it muddles up the game/tacklecount, and defenders may not attempt to tackle if within the 10m - but a clear "all onside, play-on" call from referee would make it obvious.
Re - Original question - yes players often tried the quick tap to themselves when close to the line, especially if they'd just been caught during a breakaway - I didn't really understand why they got rid of it - apart from trying to slow the PTB down.
Its a bit like the weird rule that an attacking player has to throw the ball in from the sideline, to their team-mate following a penalty touchfinder i.e. prior to the tap restart. The person taking the restart tap just use to get the ball from the touchjudge / ballboy in the "old days". Never understood this one - since effectively the attacking team "loses" a player for that set.
This site (albeit NRL focussed) outlines some of the rule changes:
dazrl.awardspace.info/h_rules.htm | |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 17952 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2011 | 13 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif |
|
|
Ah, the good old days, when craft and guile were the order of the day.
The 10 metre ruing changed the game irrevocably and turned the sport to a size and power game.
o doubt that the game is faster in the modern era but some of the art has definitely been lost.
It was always embarrassing to have the ball raked when trying to play the ball although, if we go further back (to unlimited tackles), raking the ball was one of the few ways of turning over possession and nobody would want to watch game of unlimited ptb.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
