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| Quote: headhunter "Celtic Crusaders made the NL1 Grand Final in 2008 and under a system of automatic P&R would've been promoted as one of the top 2 Championship clubs as Super League expanded to 14. Even under the current system they would've been strong contenders for promotion, whereas Leigh and Widnes would not.
If your club didn't want to put in the investment to allow them to make SL under the old system then whose fault is that?'"
They did get promoted one year, got hammered week in and week out and were, I think -apologies if I'm wrong, the only team to be relegated from SL the year after they came up. But that wasn't their fault. It was because they didn't have enough time to recruit after being promoted. They had the same time as other teams that came up but it wasn't enough for poor little Leigh. And the years they didn't get promoted under P&R wasn't their fault either - if was cos of parachute payments. I forget now why they weren't in division 1 every year it existed before SL but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Leigh's fault
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Now now Wollo you're an interesting poster who usually makes good, relevant points. Don't turn into chissitt.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Peaked too soon, or just choked? Which one?'"
Choked IMHO.
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| Quote: headhunter "Celtic Crusaders made the NL1 Grand Final in 2008 and under a system of automatic P&R would've been promoted as one of the top 2 Championship clubs as Super League expanded to 14.'"
True.
Yet irrelevant.
Celtic Crusaders had a decent side, but no club infrastructure to speak of and no foundations for success. Their promotion would have given them 1 season in the top flight, a rude shock and probably bankruptcy. They were not ready for the big time. As it was, they were guaranteed 3 years before reality bit properly.
Quote: headhunter "Even under the current system they would've been strong contenders for promotion, whereas Leigh and Widnes would not.'"
Speculation.
Quote: headhunter "If your club didn't want to put in the investment to allow them to make SL under the old system then whose fault is that?'"
I'll come back to this one later
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Michael_Ward "True.
Yet irrelevant.
Celtic Crusaders had a decent side, but no club infrastructure to speak of and no foundations for success. Their promotion would have given them 1 season in the top flight, a rude shock and probably bankruptcy. They were not ready for the big time. As it was, they were guaranteed 3 years before reality bit properly.'" The club actually did have solid infrastructure as evidenced by the number of South Wales club-developed players that are still playing in SL despite the club only being there for one season. What they didn't have was a legit owner and the RFL should've made sure that Samuel wasn't a crook before admitting them to SL. The off-field organization was also a shambles in the first season. It's irrelevant though as we're talking about a system of P&R based solely on on-field success, and Celtic would've been promoted under such a system regardless of any of this. Whether or not you think they deserved a license is immaterial.
Quote: Michael_Ward "Speculation.'" No, under the current Super 8's system the qualifying Championship teams would've been Salford, Celtic Crusaders, Halifax and Leigh. I didn't think Leigh finished that high so my mistake there, but Widnes certainly wouldn't have been involved.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Well they certainly were too good for the Championship. Sadly, not good enough for SL
The danger of taking the views of out of date, ex-players. Most of them haven't a bloody clue about the modern game.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Hidden agenda to keep Leigh out of SL says Alex Murphy :-
As much as i respect him for what he did for my club i can't agree with him here
Leigh were given a chance of promotion but they blew it, they beat 2 SL clubs and competed well with a 3rd in the cup but their bottoms fell out when it came to the 8s, as a lot of people suspected it would.
i don't agree with what wakefield did but it wasn't illegal, but i still don't think it should be allowed to happen.
but Leigh only have themselves to blame for not getting promotion, no one else.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Hidden agenda to keep Leigh out of SL says Alex Murphy :-
Man that is embarrassing.
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| Let's not forget that for the bleating and moaning that Eddie Hemmings and Paul Rowley did, Wakefield have been playing a 17 that includes 13 players who've been at Trinity all season.
No one seems to want to mention Hock, Higham etc signing for Leigh
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Man that is embarrassing.'"
A great player who has just made a complete and utter fool of himself. He's worse than Schofield.
I think there are a few flaws to be ironed out in the new structure but to suggest it's designed to stop Leigh or any other club achieving promotion is ludicrous. Everyone knew the rules at the start, some have exploited them better than others.
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| Murphy seems to have virtually thrown the towel in, I hope the rest of the club doesn't follow suit.
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| As for Celtic, they got into the Play-Off final and a promotion place by illegally signing and paying a dozen Australians. So any "achievements" they made are invalid.
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