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| Quote: galliant "So a tournament played in 6 European countries in front of over a million spectators and being watched by upto 10 million viewers per game (check the BARB figures for Wales v England this year) is 'ridiculously over-hyped'? You are right, it's because the 6N is such a small tournament compared with the Challenge Cup
Given a similar amount of national coverage in the media over decades as well as the massive build up to tournaments/matches and the actual live coverage which bombards the screens RL would fare far far better, it's hardly surprising the viewing figures/interest.
As for RU fans bellyaching, they get an inordinate amount of media coverage even at club level comparative to their sports actual popularity, more so even than soccer, there are more international union matches live on FTA than there are soccer, no wonder they don't have a reason to moan.
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| Quote: galliant "So a tournament played in 6 European countries in front of over a million spectators and being watched by upto 10 million viewers per game (check the BARB figures for Wales v England this year) is 'ridiculously over-hyped'? You are right, it's because the 6N is such a small tournament compared with the Challenge Cup
I don't give two fuicks about Rugby Union, why are you on here talking about that crap again!
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Given a similar amount of national coverage in the media over decades as well as the massive build up to tournaments/matches and the actual live coverage which bombards the screens RL would fare far far better, it's hardly surprising the viewing figures/interest.
As for RU fans bellyaching, they get an inordinate amount of media coverage even at club level comparative to their sports actual popularity, more so even than soccer, there are more international union matches live on FTA than there are soccer, no wonder they don't have a reason to moan.'"
You've just basically recycled what this and countless other threads have blindly said and its factually not true. If by 'bombard the screens' you mean RU is on TV a lot, that's because there are quite a few competitions worldwide both domestically and internationally, far more than RL, so it will get more coverage. As I said before, the bigger the sport the more coverage it gets. If RL doesn't get a lot of coverage it's not because of some worldwide conspiracy (RL isn't important enough for that), its because (brace yourself) not enough people like RL to go watch the game live or on TV. RU at club level gets roughly the same coverage as RL, as for its popularity its attendance figures have risen most years and its viewing figures have risen the last 2 years to overtake RLs (which have fallen). That's down to RL fans who have stopped attending and watching on TV, is that RUs/the medias fault too? And If there are more international RU matches on FTA TV then that means there's a demand for their sport (which is backed up by the viewing figures), and maybe the people who run soccer and RL should pull their fingers out eh?
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| Quote: CommanderShepard "They HAVE let the CC go to Sky. But that's the RFL for you. Sky probably just plucked a figure out of the air and the RFL have gone "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah".'"
What, the whole kit and caboodle, or just the early rounds (as this season)? Not so bothered about the early rounds being on Sky as long as the semis and Final are on BBC.
But if that's the thin end of the wedge...
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Being back in the country since 5 years ago I was amazed the total lack of RL covg in the Nationals. It's literally one small paragraph most days. Not sure what the RL can do about it but geez it is pretty sad to see.'"
I have just been to visit relatives in France. If you think the UK suffers from apathy you should have a look over the water. This is the time of year when we start to wonder which Elite teams will fail to make the first game of the season or which will fold part way through. I can never understand how, outside Catalan Dragons on Bein Sport, RL gets less national TV time than Pelota or even grass slope ski jumping. On some of the local channels there is reasonable coverage of local events like box car racing and I once spent a wet couple of hours watching Solex racing. What are we doing wrong?
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| Quote: galliant "You've just basically recycled what this and countless other threads have blindly said and its factually not true. If by 'bombard the screens' you mean RU is on TV a lot, that's because there are quite a few competitions worldwide both domestically and internationally, far more than RL, so it will get more coverage. As I said before, the bigger the sport the more coverage it gets. If RL doesn't get a lot of coverage it's not because of some worldwide conspiracy (RL isn't important enough for that), its because (brace yourself) not enough people like RL to go watch the game live or on TV. RU at club level gets roughly the same coverage as RL, as for its popularity its attendance figures have risen most years and its viewing figures have risen the last 2 years to overtake RLs (which have fallen). That's down to RL fans who have stopped attending and watching on TV, is that RUs/the medias fault too? And If there are more international RU matches on FTA TV then that means there's a demand for their sport (which is backed up by the viewing figures), and maybe the people who run soccer and RL should pull their fingers out eh?'"
And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?
You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?
You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"
and a cock!
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?
You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"
Yet another recycled untruth, club RL does get the same coverage and press as club RU. Have you not been listening to BBC radio 5Live? (The same BBC that is part of the Establishment and ignores RL) I notice you didn't mention International RU and RL, I wonder why? You think that RU and RL should be considered as equals but they're not due to the international game and its wider geographical reach. Do you think RU and soccer should have the same coverage? Only an 'idiot' would think so, so only an 'idiot' would think RU and RL should have the same coverage. Outlawed from the armed forces? yeah, cos that's what stopped RL from global domination and would have made all the difference
I'd rather be a humble idiot than the self-pitying, bleating type that blames all my own failings and shortcomings on someone else.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?
You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"
The old Rugby Union restrictions aimed directly at RL have gone, by and large. But now RL falls into the trap set by the establishment. That of anything outside what the establishment deems to be "right" is either ignored or actively fought against with every weapon of the state, both public and private, that they can bring to bear.
Be it in politics, media, education, whatever. Hence the vitriol and lies directed at Jeremy Corbyn. Or the proliferation of public schoolboys in high positions. Or the criminalisation of as much of the working class as possible. Or, as an example of the vastly unequal system, the fact that London gets 24 times higher transport spending than the rest of the country.
I also guess it's just co-incidence that England Union are playing in the World Cup in the same city and on the exact same day, just 2 hours apart from the SL Grand Final.
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| Quote: galliant "Yet another recycled untruth, club RL does get the same coverage and press as club RU. Have you not been listening to BBC radio 5Live? (The same BBC that is part of the Establishment and ignores RL) I notice you didn't mention International RU and RL, I wonder why? You think that RU and RL should be considered as equals but they're not due to the international game and its wider geographical reach. Do you think RU and soccer should have the same coverage? Only an 'idiot' would think so, so only an 'idiot' would think RU and RL should have the same coverage. Outlawed from the armed forces? yeah, cos that's what stopped RL from global domination and would have made all the difference
And thick as two short planks, ignorance is no excuse
What a fool!
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| Quote: The Avenger "And thick as two short planks, ignorance is no excuse
What a fool!'"
Clearly he doesn't understand British history, the history of RL or the history of sport and how/why British sport grew across the world.
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| I really can't believe that people think that rugby and the bbc are out to undermine and destroy rugby league. The bbc by having the rights (which they don't have to have) and broadcAsting to tens of millions of potential viewers is not the mark of a corporation trying to destroy a game. If they wanted to they would just relinquish the rights and give them to channel 5 or something. No wonder RL in this country is a laughing stock when 99% of the fans are paranoid idiots
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| On the subject of Union keeping League down. If one of my staff decided to 'go it alone" and I felt that he/she might nick some of my clients or other staff, I'd crush their business without a moments hesitation.
Rugby League broke away from Union and as such, Union would have seen the new governing body as direct competition......and in every competition there are winners and losers.
Whining about losing makes us look like small minded fools with chips on our shoulders.
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| Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.
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| Quote: Him "Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.'"
If I need a favour from someone in my attempts to crush my ex-employee's new business that threatens my own, I would probably start with old school mates. It's just unfortunate for League that the Union lot went to school with the people in power and as I say, its a competition and we were never gong to win, especially with the odds stacked against us.
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