FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > NRL down to 8 Substitutions |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 512 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2020 | Nov 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
28639_1285124636.gif "oh why did he kick that ball? that's why it's a try!":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_28639.gif |
|
| Quote: Saddened! "How will it stop that? If anything the wrestling and spoiling will INCREASE as players are fatigued. They will lie on for longer and mess about more.'"
If you're fatigued - then you don't have the high intense energy to complete in a wrestle. Therefore, I suspect wrestling will decrease.
Either because a) they're too knackered after wrestling for the first part of the game
or
b) wrestling will decrease as a measure for players to conserve energy throughout the whole 80 minutes.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1426 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Don't you love the implication that the best players of the past were simply those who were fit enough to run round the opposition forwards who had stopped for pint and a fag.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11902 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
White Backgrounds/Statler.gif :White Backgrounds/Statler.gif |
|
| Quote: Saddened! "It's bad for player welfare. Those proposing the rule changes are idiots. The idea is to stop big players having an impact on the game by making everyone tired. It isn't going to reduce the collisions and their severity, instead you will see fatigued players going through the same impacts more often. You will likely see more injuries as players make poor choices and their technique deteriorates.'"
Agreed. And for those spouting "development" nonsense, surely it would be better for players to develop skills against fitter and fresh opposition than tired players blowing out of their ars3.
Personally I think this will be another gimmick that'll blow up in the RFL's face, most likely in unfortunate circumstances.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9565 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2019 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif :fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif |
|
| The players this is most aimed at benefitting are halfbacks. At present they can be ruthlessly targeted in defence and yet not have the time/space to use footwork against tired defenders. That's the idea anyway. As ever there will be unintended consequences.
There are some forwards that will have to lose weight to be of much use. There are plenty of forwards in the NRL who's entire game is based on 10 minute spells. Down to 6 interchanges these forwards will become far less important.
I think its massively overdramatising to suggest that we'll see heaps more fatigued players all over the place and much smaller forwards. Outside backs are getting bigger and bigger and these changes won't affect them much at all.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17146 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
755_1290430740.jpg “At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg |
|
| Quote: Willzay "
Personally I think this will be another gimmick that'll blow up in the RFL's face, most likely in unfortunate circumstances.'"
Like which other gimmicks?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1995 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Nov 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| There are also a few other measures including a time clock for breaks in play, which add to rule changes last year designed to make the game faster and the players smaller and fitter.
The play the balls should be quicker because there will be less wrestle and less numbers in tackles, so the game will speed up.
It shouldn't make the game look much different from the stands, but smaller and fitter guys will thrive more, and that will lead to teams that win with small guys running big teams off their feet.
Even this year, with the changes made last year, the game is a bit faster and the players need to be a bit fitter.
I think it is working well, and look forward to see how it works next year.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 31955 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
10005_1514558855.jpg [img:3pn3rtgd]https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1459266_10152888309818169_8576471687088230298_n.jpg?oh=8e86c9009966b41d1dba7d8926425bd2&oe=54E9FC55&__gda__=1423730284_8e5d25e64585e5ee2afba72701ddadb6[/img:3pn3rtgd]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10005.jpg |
|
| Quote: moto748 "I'd rather have the seven-tackle set!'"
They still have that in the NRL since Perenara is still employed there....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4940 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Great idea, better use of subs and tacktical changes on the return, better than just swapping all the time, coaches will have to look at using 5-6 changes up to 60-65 mins keeping the other changes in reserve for injuries in last ten mins.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
2244_1299706258.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2244.jpg |
|
| I'd cautiously back these changes (the 8 interchanges from 5 subs). It hopefully might go someway to mitigating the effects of huge increases in power and strength of the players in recent years.
Though I think if the aim is to clear up the ruck then that can be done by the referees penalising holding down, interference etc.
If we think the play the ball is too quick and we want to avoid the cannonball tackles and twisting techniques then firstly we can harshly penalise those who commit them but we can slow the play the ball if we wish, again through the referees. They can penalise poor play the balls.
If we think there isn't enough space for half backs (which id agree with) then in addition to these new interchange rules we can tweak the playing rules. A simple rule change as to when the ball is in play and so when the defence can move up at the play the ball would help. Change it from the point the player touches the ball with his foot to the point at which the acting half either passes or runs with the ball. That'd give the attack an extra second or so to get the ball away from the play the ball and so give the first receiver a little extra time on the ball. Combine that with penalising offsides and not square and also harshly penalise "late" hits on the halves. I say they're late they're generally not, they're often timed just right.
If you want to give halves more room in which to work I'd also suggest looking at re-introducing competitive scrums.
|
|
|
|
|
|