Be interested to see what the RFL do with this game/series next year. The crowds and interest have been good, and I'm sure SKY will have got good viewing figures, but I'm not sure if the credibility can recover from tonight.

We can gloss over the fact that St George and Brisbane are mid table teams and that Wigan and Warrington ran them close and get away with it, but you can't disguise an 80min drubbing in the game that actually mattered.

Roby is a work horse but his attack is one dimensional, just relies on the quick scoot after quick play the ball. They never got that tonigh so he was ineffective.

I think we tend to convert our physically bigger kids into back-rowers rather than teaching them the skills to make it as a back.

I can't think of many big English backs other than Atkins and Hall.

A couple of sides might get close but I'd be surprised if they don't win it again tbh.

I mean they beat the Bulldiogs 30-6 in their GF so i don't think we should over think this . We know the salary cap difference and generally it's a tougher comp but I wouldn't go as far as saying we're miles behind, although Saints were tonight.

Stick with it.Its been a great weekend despite the flat end.Fans have backed it and the games have been by and large entertaining.
Keep it going imo

To be fair St George and Brisbane were mid table last season. I think they'll comfortably make the 8 this time around.

Agree with all that.

Oh what a joy to watch, well done to The Bunnies .

To all those deluded individuals who think their own team could compete week in, week out, in the NRL, this has to be a wake-up call .

Agree with this.

I said on another thread that, in patches, Wigan, Wire and St Helens all looked capable against their respective opposition. Forget the arguments about preparation, flights, weather, etc - all three teams showed that they could compete to a degree with the NRL sides.

In all three games the SL teams made mistakes that, in all probability, wouldn't be punished. Similarly, Souths today made mistakes that in the NRL, probably would have been punished.

What has let the SL sides down this weekend is the fact that, for about three years, the top sides have had nowhere near the level of week in, week out intensity that the NRL teams experience. We have talked at length in that time about teams being able to coast into the play-offs, play badly and win, and 'peak at the right time'. Teams in Australia are instinctively ruthless, because their competition demands that they are. The Super League doesn't demand the same because, in all likelihood, if you make a mistake, the team you are playing isn't good enough to punish it.

That isn't an issue of salary cap per se, it's an issue of having a competition that doesn't demand the best of its clubs, its an issue of letting the tail wag the dog and its an issue of too many clubs being too badly run for too long. When we have 12+ clubs that can regularly compete, we'll have teams that aren't suddenly shocked when they come up against the best in the world - at both club and international level.

The commentary was almost as embarrassing as St Helens performance. British RL is so bush league.

British teams have won 5 of the last 10 WCC matches.

Just saying.

Doesn't matter, they weren't trying in those games

If Sydney Roosters halves Pearce and Maloney are not injured for extended periods, then the Roosters can beat Souths -- esp with Blake Ferguson joining Michael Jennings in the centres.... the Roosters also bought Willy Manu asa backup backrower!

Lineham, Watkins, Briscoe, are all big lads, and then there's the likes of McGilvery. Joey B could well turn out to be a monster too, and Ben Crooks has the frame to add some bulk. But if their catching and passing can't hold up in pressure situations then it's irrelevant.