The pacific nations are pretty equal, samoa slightly the better but fiji and png not far behind and Tonga usually give samoa a close game. A tournament next year featuring those 4 plus nz and england would have been better.

The European nations at moment are too far behind to be competitive.

France, Italy (with their NRL players), Scotland, Wales and Ireland and maybe even England Knights would be a good Euro comp
Fiji, Samoa, Tonga PNG and maybe even NZ Maori would be a good PI comp

Leave the big 3 to play each other, let the others grow stronger themselves and personally, I'd like to see a 25% rule for these nations with 25% of the squad actually being from the country they represent.....that's only 6 players from 24 so not too extreme, but a "start" in getting the local comps moving.

I agree, they have to make an effort to play at least one game in Scotland. Can then play another in Workington and then play England in the heartlands somewhere.

what was the attendance for scotlands final game v france?

1432

ahead of the Eng - NZ test series both Nations should be given a warm up game

Send NZ to France

and England should play Scotland, yes to give England a warm up but also to give the Scots a taste of what is to come in the 4 nations

Afterwards Scotland should play France the week after as a stand alone match

Ok only 2 matches each but could be vital for both nations, Keeps france going and gives Scotland some vital prep for the 4 nations

there is a rumour that NZ are playing HullFC at the end of the season as part of our 150th anniversary.

Pointless Scotland been in the 4 nations 3 heavy defeats coming there way even if they fill there team with Scottish Aussies

but they earned the right to be in it

Can they be competitive?

Their squad for this years European Championships:

Danny Addy (Bradford Bulls), Josh Barlow (Swinton Lions), Sam Barlow (Leigh Centurions), Danny Brough (Huddersfield Giants), Harvey Burnett (London Broncos), Brett Carter (Workngton Town), Lewis Clarke (Edinburgh Eagles), Sonny Esslemont (Hull KR), Richard Harris (Warrington Wolves), Ben Hellewell (Featherstone Rovers), Alex Hurst (Tweed Heads Seagulls), Ben Kavanagh (Widnes Vikings), Corbyn Kilday (Wakefield Trinity), Ryan Manelly (Warrington Wolves), Nathan Massey (Canterbury Bulldogs), Joe McLean (Gloucestershire All Golds), Iain Morrison (York City Knights), Finn Murphy (Edinburgh Eagles), Lee Paterson (York City Knights), Brett Phillips (Workington Town), Callum Phillips (Workington Town),Gregor Ramsay (Easterhouse Panthers), Louis Senter (Halifax), David Scott (Doncaster), Jack Stewart (Hull KR), Oscar Thomas (London Broncos), Shane Toal (Barrow Raiders), Adam Walker (Hull KR), Alex Walker (London Broncos), Jonathan Walker (Leigh Centurions), Joe Wardle (Huddersfield Giants).

Add in Matty Russell who played in the World Cup (I think he was injured), Linnett and Wallace from NRL and Ferguson at Bradford.

Either way, they've earnt their chance.

Its like Hartlepool Accrington Stanley Grimsby and Macclesfield playing off for a place in next seasons champions league one of them would earn the right doesn't meen it should happen

scrap it then lets just have a 3 nations.

we do this year...97 players from......Australia (35), New Zealand (36) , England (24)...with 2 Samoans who have yet to get a game.

Its crap just like the world cup everybody raving about the group games then nobody mentions the one sided QFs then the only 3 decent countries playing the game plus a whipping boy in the semis AGAIN followed by Australia v England / New Zealand final and it will be exactly the same at the next world cup and the one after that

Fully agree. Hopefully they play at least one game up in Scotland, can mix that with a trip to the in-laws!