Firstly Saints at the top of the league is a damning reflection in the league format and the standard of sooper league. A pack that's too soft and no half backs.

Secondly, the LLs shield being walked away was pathetic. Is it any wonder the game isn't treated seriously. That moment belonged on WWE, not during a proper sport. Absolutely ridiculous and an example of RL as Sky's play toy.

It was a brilliant, funny moment for everyone except sintellins fans.

Saints fans must be praying more than ever now to win the LLS otherwise that 'back in the box' moment will have as much mileage as the 'Wolfs' picture over the upcoming years.

Are your mob going to do their duty this weekend and bend over for Cas?

Top 8 play-off system destroyed any credibility in finishing top. And the offer of a hubcap is tantamount to extracting the urine. Leeds haven't been interested in finishing top for years. Wigan have followed suit along with Wire and Hudds this season. Only Saints have shown any interest in it and that's only because they (and their fans know it's the only bit of silverware they could realistically win). Cas might steal it from them - LOL.

It would if it meant anything. Sadly the LLS shield has as much worth as.....

https://vine.co/search/league+leaders+shield

https://vine.co/search/league+leaders+shield

If that Vine was a few seconds longer you'd clearly lip read the box man call the Saints fans a bunch of puffs.

Did he blow a kiss, though

don't be silly, that would be Huddersfield in 2013.......Pie Eater ?

TBH William, after watching them for over forty years, I haven’t got a clue My money would be on Leeds, especially from 5th or 6th.

The playing standards are absolutely dire. Leeds could do the double for the first in their history yet their playing squad is so ordinary. I've seen far better and far classier Leeds teams in the 80's and 90's who won sweet FA.

Think it's unfair to single out Cas in order to make a valid point about the quality of the SL diluting. I'd prefer to single them all out.

SL is utter pants. There hasn't been a decent SL side since Saints in 2006.

Retro rlfans.com rules OK!

Wire 2011

Not sure how to define 'decent', but there hasn't been a 'great' side for a long time. The salary cap seems designed to specifically prevent us ever having great sides, because apparently great sides are bad for the sport - they win too much.

It might even be preferable, to all fans in general, to have it the way it is today ( very difficult as a Wigan fan to give a 'neutral' perspective ), but at the same time, nobody should expect to ever see a truly great side appear under the current salary cap regime - you'd have to get unbelievably lucky with masses of instantly ready world class youngsters appearing in the same season. Then you'd have to offload most anyway. So even then, you'd be 'great' for one season only, which is probably a contradiction anyway.