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Quote: asmadasa "77,914 crowd isn't bad for a cup final though is it?'"

That's counting the club Wembley seats though and obviously hardly any of those turned up

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Quote: TrevLovesJanice "LOL !

Very poor turn out for the final, and this is not actually a dig about Leeds. No matter how many coaches you saw there were still HUGE empty spaces at Wembley which MAY have been better filled if there had been more time between the semis and the final.

SURELY it makes more sense to give people the maximum amount of time to make arrangements ???'"


This

And make every ticket £25.

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Quote: asmadasa "77,914 crowd isn't bad for a cup final though is it?'"

Who made that figure up?

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



Quote: Southport Saint "Who made that figure up?'"


As its an all-seater stadium, the attendance figure for the final is based on how many tickets have been sold for the event. This includes not only the club wembley seats but also any tickets which have been sold to 3rd party retails, whether or not they subsequently sold them and the bum arrived on the seat.

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Quote: mikej "As its an all-seater stadium, the attendance figure for the final is based on how many tickets have been sold for the event. This includes not only the club wembley seats but also any tickets which have been sold to 3rd party retails, whether or not they subsequently sold them and the bum arrived on the seat.'"


I think this could be the key issue here, I was in block 542 (top tier at Cas end), and a week before the final I am pretty sure the RFL website said this block and all of the top tier were sold out apart for the small block above the big screen.

If the RFL did indeed sell them they probably won't care as they will trouser the cash even if it looks horrible on T.V and made the atmosphere flat. So I would like to know who bought these tickets?, Amateur clubs?, lower league clubs?, Touts, individual opportunists who tried to sell them through E.bay etc?

If they didn't whoever was in charged with that stadium graphic on the website wants to be dragged into the bosses office in the morning!

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Got to agree with others that the scheduling is bonkers, the other issue is that it gives the finalists very little time to sell Merchandise. In 2008 Hull made over £500K and a large part of that was selling a shedload of merchandise during the months gap between the Semi and the Final, 2 weeks barely gives a club chance to embroider/heatseal a few t-shirts never mind buy anything else in.

Personally i'd move the final to either the first weekend after the football season, or the weekend before the start of the new season. The media are always desperate to fill the sports pages during these lean weekends and the final would get more coverage.

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Someone stop them placing the statue at wembley, it's time to move to another stadium.

Wembley used to be an event, neutrals would be there in thousands, weekend pub trips would run from villages across Yorkshire and Lancashire, this tradition has finished and whilst the final is in August I cannot see it being reversed.

The tickets are that cheap that a lot of people probably buy the heavily discounted ones and don't bother attending when their team doesn't make the final.

It's time for a rethink, Wembley is far too big and London is too far and too expensive for neutrals to attend in the numbers they used to.

Also train travel and hotels costs are at a premium on the Bank Holiday weekend.

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Quote: FoxyDread "Someone stop them placing the statue at wembley, it's time to move to another stadium.

Wembley used to be an event, neutrals would be there in thousands, weekend pub trips would run from villages across Yorkshire and Lancashire, this tradition has finished and whilst the final is in August I cannot see it being reversed.

The tickets are that cheap that a lot of people probably buy the heavily discounted ones and don't bother attending when their team doesn't make the final.

It's time for a rethink, Wembley is far too big and London is too far and too expensive for neutrals to attend in the numbers they used to.

Also train travel and hotels costs are at a premium on the Bank Holiday weekend.'"


I cannot work out if this is tongue firmly planted in cheek or serious .

If serious it is the most stereotypical RL FANS FORUM reply I have ever read.

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Quote: fun time frankie "That's counting the club Wembley seats though and obviously hardly any of those turned up'"

Club Wembley seating accounts for 16,532 seats on the middle tier (AKA - the ring of indifference with respect to CC Finals) along with approximately 5,000 premium viewing seats on the lower tier around halfway where teams enter and presentations take place.

Given that hardly any Club Wembley seats were occupied at the CC Final on Saturday, a reasonable guesstimate as to the actual attendance would involve deducting around 20,000 from the official figure.

58,000 (around two-thirds full) out of a capacity of 90,000 would appear to be about right.

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Quote: William Eve "Club Wembley seating accounts for 16,532 seats on the middle tier (AKA - the ring of indifference with respect to CC Finals) along with approximately 5,000 premium viewing seats on the lower tier around halfway where teams enter and presentations take place.

Given that hardly any Club Wembley seats were occupied at the CC Final on Saturday, a reasonable guesstimate as to the actual attendance would involve deducting around 20,000 from the official figure.

58,000 (around two-thirds full) out of a capacity of 90,000 would appear to be about right.'"


Whilst I agree the attendance looked less than 77k only bums on seats on the day count to the attendance not tickets sold. Club wembley tickets are only counted on those who turn up.

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They have at least removed one band of pricing for next year (down from 7 categories to 6) which is a step in the right direction for making things simpler.

they've also finally seen sense and not put the top tier on sale for one side of the ground as yet, so that the areas facing the cameras are sold first.

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I tried to get tickets for the main side in the centre and it was ale gladly sold out, but this was one of the emptiest areas. So what's that abut.

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



Quote: rollin thunder "I tried to get tickets for the main side in the centre and it was ale gladly sold out, but this was one of the emptiest areas. So what's that abut.'"


RFL had already allocated them to organisations / 3rd parties who didnt show. know people who couldnt get seats they wanted online and they rang the RFL and enquired about seats in "sold out" areas and got them.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Whilst I agree the attendance looked less than 77k only bums on seats on the day count to the attendance not tickets sold. Club wembley tickets are only counted on those who turn up.'"


I am fairly sure that is incorrect.

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August is an expensive month for families, if most aren't on holiday they are spending to keep the kids entertained. We need the final shifting from August if we can.

On a side note believe England Footy team have a friendly at Wembley in a couple of weeks, it will be interesting what the crowd will be, ticket pricing etc

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