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| Quote: rollin thunder "I did and I know quite a few more. All games should have been played Thursday and Monday and left Friday to Sunday free, this was always going to happen when the worlds biggest annual event came to town don't think even football could compete with the Tour de France in Yorkshire'"
Last season the Giants v Salford fixture has 5, 345 people watching it.
This season it had 5,681.
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| Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "Wonder how many Yarkshire RL fans attended the Tour de France over the weekend as opposed to watching their respective club sides ?'"
Poor excuse. I managed to get from Birmingham on Friday to watch Trinty v Leeds then went to Skipton on Saturday for the Tour and Hebden Bridge on Sunday.
Attendances have been low all season - responsibility lays with the clubs not with F1, FIFA, the Tour de France or Wimbledon.
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| I think the Thursday night games are a good idea but only when its 2 local teams playing.
The Widnes v Cas game should of been 6/7 thousand but because it was on a Thursday night, the Cas following would ofr halved and maybe a third off the home following.
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| Quote: Him "I'd be interested to see if the attendances have actually fallen in the licensing era compared to P&R. The average has fallen but how much of that is due to adding 2 clubs to the league at the same time?
Personally I don't think the league system has much effect on SL attendances. I think the economy has had a big effect (I know I've attended fewer games, mostly away games, due to money being tight) and aside from that it's individual clubs doing well/poorly and individual clubs marketing.'" 2012 was a record breaking season in terms of attendances. We suffered only one year of falling attendances in the franchising era. 2013. We then reverted to a system which has never worked for us
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| Quote: tigersteve "I think the Thursday night games are a good idea but only when its 2 local teams playing.
The Widnes v Cas game should of been 6/7 thousand but because it was on a Thursday night, the Cas following would ofr halved and maybe a third off the home following.'"
I expect a good few thousand of you there on the 24th July at the KC then ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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I believe William is on summer sabbatical, ala old school RL fans.
I’m sure he takes a sneaky look & updates his spreadsheet ready to be vilified once it shows yet another reduction on past seasons.
Licencing, jeopardy, I don’t think anyone can put a finger on the reasons for the decline, it’s probably a combination of things.
Personally I think some the clubs have become too reliant on Sky monies & don’t put in the hard yards to entice people through the gate.
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| The average attendance for the last pre-SL season was 5543, so we're well ahead there. The lower divisions make much less happy reading with 1368 contrasting with a combined average in Championship and Championship 1 of 866.
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| Am surprised at the Widnes vs Cas attendance. The way both sets of fans constantly slate Salford's crowds on social media, you would think they both play in front of sell out crowds every week.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Last season the Giants v Salford fixture has 5, 345 people watching it.
This season it had 5,681.'"
last season, salford brought about 30 fans, this year, 200ish, could explain it.
although with upto 100,000 visitors to the huddersfield area over the weekend, i'm disappointed the giants didn't get out and put a big effort into getting some of those to come down...
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Personally I think some the clubs have become too reliant on Sky monies & don’t put in the hard yards to entice people through the gate.'"
exactly. I think McManus has said that in 2015, for the first time SKY money will cover the full salary cap. Where is the incentive to pay for marketing staff, advertising etc...when you don't actually need that many people coming through the doors as the bulk of your costs are already covered.
The next step is to enforce a minimum investment in marketing, either done at club level or by a contribution to a centralised marketing fund. All the clubs put £100k into the pot (£1.2m in total), and then it is spent on advertising and marketing of club games at a regional level.
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| Leigh have increased their hardcore to around 2100 fans with the recent success and the RFL giving us some hope for the future.Our fans also travel pretty well this season.
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| Quote: EHW "exactly. I think McManus has said that in 2015, for the first time SKY money will cover the full salary cap. Where is the incentive to pay for marketing staff, advertising etc...when you don't actually need that many people coming through the doors as the bulk of your costs are already covered.
The next step is to enforce a minimum investment in marketing, either done at club level or by a contribution to a centralised marketing fund. All the clubs put £100k into the pot (£1.2m in total), and then it is spent on advertising and marketing of club games at a regional level.'"
I don't agree with a centralised marketing fund (the onus should be on the clubs, not the RFL) and I don't think that setting a minimum spend on marketing is necessarily the answer, but setting KPIs on increasing crowds should certainly be on the agenda.
It should be down to clubs to market in the right ways for them - social media advertising, for example, is much cheaper than buying some billboard space or ads in the local paper and could have a better return - the clubs should know what works best for their audiences. I also suspect that a £100k marketing budget buys a lot more in St Helens than it does on London.
Perhaps a portion of central funding should be ringfenced and only paid based on certain KPIs being met? Tie a portion of Sky money to things like marketing, commercial operations and community activity and you'll soon get clubs taking it seriously.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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| I'm still waiting to see some serious marketing strategy on how to increase memberships across the board in Super League as seen in the NRL.
There seems to be no 'league wide' strategy to address some of the issues we have such as low crowds and lack of sponsorship.
I can't help but feel there is a lack of a long term plan when it comes to these things, more of a "we'll leave it to the clubs attitude".
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| Wakefield at home against one of the premier teams can only muster less than 5k???
Comes to something when people would rather watch a load of men wearing hotpants cycle past them. "Cool!! I just saw someone riding a bike, im going to faint through excitement".
Our sport is on its rear end
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| Marquee players, that'll help pull people through the turnstiles.
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