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Why would PNG need the kind of revenue an Australian club needs?

People like to talk about how poor the country is and how little fans can afford to pay to attend, but then claim the club would cost the same as other NRL clubs to run. It's quite a contradiction.

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Because it would lol. The wages would need to be the same otherwise the best players, coaches and management would get signed up by other non png teams. Sure some back room staff like shop assistants, receptionists, admin staff etc would be cheaper but the majority of NRL revenue is spent on players and player related staff.

By the time a png club is admitted, if ever, most clubs are going to be operating on $18-25mill revenue. Around $9mill of that will come from the NRL grant. The rest is made up of membership, stadium deals or gate takings, corporate sponsorship, merchandise sales and league clubs grants for some.

IF a png team could get $4mill of corporate support, IF they could get govt to annually chip in $3mill, IF they could get a 30-40,000 stadium and fill it with the png middle class then they would be a sustainable club.

Still wouldn't tick the value to NRL box but at least they would have a shot.

I'd love to see it, I'd love to see the NRL be committed to make that level of investment in png, I'd love to see the Kumuls win a RLWC but sadly it is highly unlikely to happen.

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I agree with you on pretty well every point JB.
There is another factor that is never brought up.
The NRL is spread over a massive area, who is paying for the cost of Clubs to travel to Port Moresby for away games?

You see some comment on the crowd figures at games in the NRL but many Clubs only have home support with a handful of expats or neutrals.
That would include.
Brisbane Broncos
Nth Qld Cowboys
Gold Coast Titans
Newcastle Knights
Melbourne Storm
NZ Warriors
Canberra Raiders

That's 7 from 16 teams that are unlikely to get many travelling fans unlike the Super League where only two Clubs are outside of a reasonable travelling distance and one has a potential Country behind it, the other is a basket case in the Capital city that get a handful of people to most games.

How far apart are most Super League Clubs 100 miles at the most?

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Quote: JB Down Under "Lol, they do not have govt guarantee of funding, and without going into the ethical discussion on if a developing nation with massive health, education, crime and infrastructure problems should be spending oz aid on a professional sports team, they do not have the money to guarantee the $5-7million a year they would need to cover the revenue shortfall they would face.

They are refurbing a 15,000 athletic stadium, if they wanted to be in the NRL they would need a 30-40k rectangular stadium and they can not afford to build one.

They have been told they will not be considered, hence why they have stopped calling themselves the png NRL bid!

NRL is a billion $ business, they can aspire all they like but it won't get them a team in the next two decades if ever, IMO.'"
Their bid did have government funding guarantees, and all the 'ethical issues' are not your business or the NRL's business.

A 30-40k all seated stadium up to Australian standards would never work in PNG. The vast majority of the population can only afford to sit on a grassed hill, which would be cheap to build. The grandstand would only need to sit 5k tops.

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Quote: roopy "Their bid did have government funding guarantees, and all the 'ethical issues' are not your business or the NRL's business.

A 30-40k all seated stadium up to Australian standards would never work in PNG. The vast majority of the population can only afford to sit on a grassed hill, which would be cheap to build. The grandstand would only need to sit 5k tops.'"



Are the PNG covering the visiting teams costs?
Who is guaranteeing safety and providing security to visiting teams.
PNG is one level better than a war zone by western standards,
Many Australian companies will not send their staff there because of the state of the place and lack of security.

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Quote: roopy "Their bid did have government funding guarantees, and all the 'ethical issues' are not your business or the NRL's business.

A 30-40k all seated stadium up to Australian standards would never work in PNG. The vast majority of the population can only afford to sit on a grassed hill, which would be cheap to build. The grandstand would only need to sit 5k tops.'"



As an Australian whose taxes contribute to the $500million our country gives PNG to improve the life of its citizens I beg to differ.

Link? Re ongoing govt financial support?

Problem is it is very very hard to build a safe hill that holds 30k! Short of turning an open mine into a ground Ala odsal style. Why 30k? Well at 50c entry they are going to need huge crowds to make enough money

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