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Quote: Odem "This is also priceless because you rubbished me for searching for that link from two years ago which turns out not to be the case. Then you rubbish me for something which happened in 2010 in the heat of the moment after a game!'"

No, what's priceless is someone who's supposedly a rugby league fan wishing a career ending injury on a player just because their team lost then having the nerve to have a go at a player for swearing at another player.

Quote: Odem "I don't know how to get it from my TV onto here. Do you not have the game on record? Don't be lazy.'"

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If it's not directed at the ref, which it doesn't appear to be, then a letter or a quiet word in his ear about watching his language will do fine.
Otherwise we'll have half the league suspended for being nasty to each other.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Again. It was 4 years ago and in the heat of the moment after a night out at the rugby. A message board is the last place to be going after a game like that. Hold it against me if it makes you feel better but I would never seriously wish injury on a player.

It was directed at the ref. Watch the full clip.

Why are you defending this. He uses homophobic abuse towards the ref, even if it is to another player it is unacceptable.

If this was a Wigan player you would be calling for the death penalty. But because it is a Leeds player you are willing to let it go. Priceless.

I'm sorry, you are no longer worth my time.

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Quote: Odem "Again. It was 4 years ago and in the heat of the moment after a night out at the rugby. A message board is the last place to be going after a game like that. Hold it against me if it makes you feel better but I would never seriously wish injury on a player.

It was directed at the ref. Watch the full clip.

Why are you defending this. He uses homophobic abuse towards the ref, even if it is to another player it is unacceptable.

If this was a Wigan player you would be calling for the death penalty. But because it is a Leeds player you are willing to let it go. Priceless.

I'm sorry, you are no longer worth my time.'"


I'm a saints fan. I fully agree with a zero tolerance policy on the matter - but I'm not totally convinced your just not seeing a storm in a teacup here...

I've watched it in full and see nothing to suggest it wasn't towards another player as opposed to the ref. I'm sure it will be open to further investigation by the rfl, and if it is concluded to be aimed at the ref, I'll be the first to throw the book at him.

As a thought, if the ref thought for a moment it was directed at him, do you not think he'd of stopped play and called him over to give him a talking down? He clearly shouts it, the ref would hear it - and yet nothing transpires.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I'm a saints fan. I fully agree with a zero tolerance policy on the matter - but I'm not totally convinced your just not seeing a storm in a teacup here...

I've watched it in full and see nothing to suggest it wasn't towards another player as opposed to the ref. I'm sure it will be open to further investigation by the rfl, and if it is concluded to be aimed at the ref, I'll be the first to throw the book at him.

As a thought, if the ref thought for a moment it was directed at him, do you not think he'd of stopped play and called him over to give him a talking down? He clearly shouts it, the ref would hear it - and yet nothing transpires.'"


Watch it again, the ref has just made a call against Leeds. Hardaker is looking at him.

I don't think the ref heard him, if it was to another player then surely that player would have reacted?

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Quote: Odem "Watch it again, the ref has just made a call against Leeds. Hardaker is looking at him.

I don't think the ref heard him, if it was to another player then surely that player would have reacted?'"


Looking at the angles I don't believe he was aiming it at the ref - the ref clearly walks across him, yet the insult is aimed directly in front of him - I'd estimate the ref was a good 5-10m to the left of him when it was said.

- a player wouldn't respond to that, they're 10 a dozen - especially after already winning the penalty. And there's no angle to show that a Warrington player didn't initiate/ respond to it.

The most stupid thing is doing it on camera, slap on the wrist for that. If more evidence (beyond the tv showing tonight) comes out to suggest otherwise, it becomes a lot more serious, granted - but without said evidence, it seems very little in it indeed.

The kick by Ablett was a far greater crime!

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did anyone see Danny Brough's outburst after the Challenge cup game with saints ended ? I P**sed myself....He was shouting at Bentham and as he turned round the linesman walked passed him...Brough said "sh*t C**t" to him then turned back to Bentham almost in tears and clearly shouted "you F**kin Robbing Bas*ard" !!! Comedy Gold !! The RFL chose to ignore this just as they will with Hardaker. In all honesty if you look at it properly you will see that Hardaker was looking forward all the time and his direction never deviated as Childs walked past as Ablett's did, and he continued to look straight ahead when Childs had gone completely out of shot to the right. He was clearly speaking to a warrington player which doesnt excuse what was said but that sort of sledging goes on in every game in every place by the majority of players.

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A player is guilty of misconduct if he;
(f) uses offensive or obscene language.
(g) disputes a decision of the Referee or Touch Judge.
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(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.
Hardaker guilty of at least two of these, probably three.
For me, the fact that it was homophobic abuse is the crux of the matter whether aimed at Child or not. Fans are told at every match that abusive language isn't tolerated and it shouldn't be tolerated from players either. I appreciate that adrenaline is flowing and players are passionate and if he'd just sworn, called whoever a c--- or similar then no big problem (unless it was at the ref) but the use of the homophobic language is unacceptable. Would we be even having this thread if he'd used racist language?

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Does he say "fag" or "faggot"?

Either way pretty obvious it was directed at Childs, I know a few calls went against Leeds last night but I thought there were a few players that were gonna end up getting bollocked.

If that is picked up it could be a big issue, as far as I have seen homophobic is up there with racism to the RFL.

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Its irrelevant who he was aiming it at.
He made a homophobic comment which is clearly heard.

Homophobia is as bad as racism yet if he had used a racist term this thread would probably
be on about 15 pages by now ...

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Quote: Odem "Again. It was 4 years ago and in the heat of the moment after a night out at the rugby. A message board is the last place to be going after a game like that. Hold it against me if it makes you feel better but I would never seriously wish injury on a player. '"

And yet that's exactly what you did. You wished the injury ended his career. Nothing to do with heat of the moment. It was well after the incident. You're a fan not a player, what Hardaker just did (and Tomkins in the CC Final) was in the heat of the moment. Yours wasn't, it showed your character.

Quote: Odem "It was directed at the ref. Watch the full clip. '"

I have thanks. Not directed at the ref, unless Hardaker has very poor eyesight.

Quote: Odem "Why are you defending this. He uses homophobic abuse towards the ref, '"

For some reason only you are saying it's directed at the ref when no-one else is. You seem desperate for it to be directed at the ref, hence your desperation in putting it on here with a little clip and a 2 year old article on the Leeds website about LGBT equality.

Quote: Odem "even if it is to another player it is unacceptable. '"

Is it? Whilst I think the word used elevates it above most other swearing, the sport would have to then make all swearing on the pitch unacceptable too. As I said, half the league would be suspended. A combination of watching/hearing on remarks on tv and hearing them at the game itself leads me to believe there is a massive amount of swearing and abuse going on between players all the time during games.

Quote: Odem "If this was a Wigan player you would be calling for the death penalty. But because it is a Leeds player you are willing to let it go. Priceless. '"

Why would you say that? I've actually heard Wigan players using similar words in the past, including ones which could be thought to be homophobic (though I don't personally think they are in the context that they are used, I think they're just used as other swear words by players in the heat of the moment). But you see what I did was think about it for a second and understand the context it was said in. What I didn't do was make up a load of rubbish about it being said to the ref and then rush online to post about, maybe you should take a moritorium from posting for a few hours after a game? It seems like you have trouble composing yourself.

Quote: Odem "I'm sorry, you are no longer worth my time.'"

Oh dear. icon_lol.gif
Don't like being challenged do we. Never mind, I'm sure Leeds players, or god forbid even Danny McGuire, will do something else in the rest of the season to get you frothing at the mouth and unable to control yourself again.

The only thing I can't work out is why you didn't go with the kick by Ablett?


As I said, a letter or a word in Hardakers' ear about the language he uses. If he does it again the ban him for stupidity more than anything else.

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Disgusting

Book should be thrown at him

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So now we are to have a go at players,who say things in the heat of the moment do you think they are playing tidily winks or cards, bloody hell get a life icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: cravenpark1 "So now we are to have a go at players,who say things in the heat of the moment do you think they are playing tidily winks or cards, bloody hell get a life
So you condone homophobic abuse do you? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: cravenpark1 "So now we are to have a go at players,who say things in the heat of the moment do you think they are playing tidily winks or cards, bloody hell get a life Would that be your response to a teenager who gets called, "f...ing f..." at school?

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