FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > The Drs 5pm deadline
84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star143No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Well thank you all for your responses. the use of the term DR was firstly a typing error and second an ironic gesture into Wiggys and Baldys use of the term" the good Doctor."

I posed the question as an enquiry, but it seems that it has progressed to an debate of the use of the title Doctor. Quite rightly other than use within a medical setting, very few people use the term Doctor even in an academic settings, unless for publications of lectures.

But to continue, can I pose the question again can anyone enlighten us with the person who the Salford owner has called the biggest name in rugby league is waiting to take over.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member1642No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Hillbilly_Red "I am being a pedant again
I don't think that's being any more pedantic than pointing out that the @DrmarwanK account was set up recently by his daughter, after the @Marwan_Koukash name had been taken by someone else in an attempt at humour.

There is no evidence he refers to himself as "doctor", but WTF does it matter?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member1642No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Frombanginfront "Well thank you all for your responses. the use of the term DR was firstly a typing error and second an ironic gesture into Wiggys and Baldys use of the term" the good Doctor."

I posed the question as an enquiry, but it seems that it has progressed to an debate of the use of the title Doctor. Quite rightly other than use within a medical setting, very few people use the term Doctor even in an academic settings, unless for publications of lectures.

But to continue, can I pose the question again can anyone enlighten us with the person who the Salford owner has called the biggest name in rugby league is waiting to take over.'"

Back on topic.

A few names have been rumoured, but I deliberately didn't mention them because anything Marwan related tends to get the inhabitants of the RLFans sand pit all aerated. However, since you ask, the Manchester Evening News mentioned Tim Sheens, amongst others.

However, it seems clear that the man Marwan really wants as Director of Rugby is Brian Noble, hence his willingness to extend the deadline.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Don't do it Brian....you DO NOT need 'little rich' Salford..... icon_sad.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3829
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Red John "Back on topic.

A few names have been rumoured, but I deliberately didn't mention them because anything Marwan related tends to get the inhabitants of the RLFans sand pit all aerated. However, since you ask, the Manchester Evening News mentioned Tim Sheens, amongst others.

However, it seems clear that the man Marwan really wants as Director of Rugby is Brian Noble, hence his willingness to extend the deadline.'"


Tim Sheens!

What’s he waiting for, kick Nobby to the curb I say, an antipodean dinosaur is obviously better than a British one.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman7594
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Durham Giant "Very few Phd's use the title Dr'"


Absolute gibberish.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12488No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: vbfg "Absolute gibberish.'"



You could always use the full quote which is correct but if you used the full quote you would not be able to make yourself look clever.

Do you feel better now.

although i should have added that different countries regard the etiquette in different ways.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



"Doctor" is an academic title, derived from Latin, specifically the Latin verb "to teach" (docere)

It is a bit strange how many people have ised it into thinking it means a medical doctor, but in England in common usage that's where we are, however, a "real" doctor is a more difficult qualification than a medical doctor - a doctorate is the top academic qualification, whereas a medical doctor will normally be at the bottom, Bachelor, level.

I don't see any issue with a real doctor with a real doctorate using the title "doctor", but I suppose the issue revealed in this thread is that somehow a medical doctor is viewed in higher esteem by some than any other, real, doctorate, presumably because for some people a medical doctor has some near-mystical powers and so they think if anyone else calls themself a "doctor" they are trying to get the perceived kudos of people believing they are a medical doctor.

Ironic that"Doctor" isn't even that crash hot a moniker from a medical doctor's point of view: the accolade they aspire to is to actually lose the "doctor" and become a "Mr." I find it odd that nobody complains that top consultants are impersonating plain Joe Green by "pretending" to be a plain "Mr." when they are in fact a high end medical doctor. It would make about as much sense.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12647
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Ferocious Aardvark ""Doctor" is an academic title, derived from Latin, specifically the Latin verb "to teach" (docere)

It is a bit strange how many people have ised it into thinking it means a medical doctor, but in England in common usage that's where we are, however, a "real" doctor is a more difficult qualification than a medical doctor - a doctorate is the top academic qualification, whereas a medical doctor will normally be at the bottom, Bachelor, level.

I don't see any issue with a real doctor with a real doctorate using the title "doctor", but I suppose the issue revealed in this thread is that somehow a medical doctor is viewed in higher esteem by some than any other, real, doctorate, presumably because for some people a medical doctor has some near-mystical powers and so they think if anyone else calls themself a "doctor" they are trying to get the perceived kudos of people believing they are a medical doctor.

Ironic that"Doctor" isn't even that crash hot a moniker from a medical doctor's point of view

I thought it was surgeons rather than consultants that switched back to Mr.? Or Mrs/Ms/Miss. Snobbery is everywhere though. I've heard other senior clinicians refer to surgeons as meat technicians a couple of times. And FCA, pfft - just sums, innit? icon_wink.gif

Isn't it a bit weird that somebody like Sheens would be willing to wait on this as a reserve option?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman7594
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Durham Giant "You could always use the full quote which is correct '"


It is? Where is the study? Where are the results? What was the method?

Quote: Durham Giant "but if you used the full quote you would not be able to make yourself look clever.'"


It'd be less effort to stand next to you with my mouth shut. I cut the guff without changing the meaning, but since you insistVery few Phd's use the title Dr outside of academia it is seen as being a bit pretentious otherwise.'"


Absolute gibberish. It may be your personal experience but it is very far from mine. I have worked with many PhDs both in and outside academia and come across very few who don't use their title in their professional lives.. The only person I knew to be a PhD who didn't use it professionally was a former partner of mine and she only did it because she preferred to be underestimated.

I'd accept it if you'd drawn the difference between the personal and professional life, but to say that PhDs don't use their titles is nonsensical. Many do, many don't.

It says nothing at all about a Koukash most of us only know through the press, and who himself became known because of his professional life, that he has become known to RL fans as "the doctor".

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member1642No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
Tim Sheens!

What’s he waiting for, kick Nobby to the curb I say, an antipodean dinosaur is obviously better than a British one.'"


Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
Isn't it a bit weird that somebody like Sheens would be willing to wait on this as a reserve option?'"

Steady on, kids. The source for this was the Manchester Evening News, colloquially known as the Manchester Evening Speculator. Their [imodus operandi[/i when it comes to Rugby League is to randomly throw names and stories around. Some hit, some miss.

The man Marwan wants for the job is Brian Noble, and he is prepared to wait. For now.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



So to sum up, Koukash thinks Noble is gash at his existing job, but is simultaneously THE best man on the planet for this new job. Why, he's even better than some world renowned rugby league god who is a household name but would still only be second best to Noble.

It makes perfect sense to me.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12488No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: vbfg "

SNIP

I'd accept it if you'd drawn the difference between the personal and professional life, but to say that PhDs don't use their titles is nonsensical. Many do, many don't.

'"



If you had used the full quotes you would se that i said they tend to use it

Very few Phd's use the title Dr outside of academia it is seen as being a bit pretentious otherwise.

You might use it in a relevant enviroment such as work specifically related to say Engineering work eg like Marwan would use his doctorate in Engineering when engaging in Engineering type work or discussions. As i understand it he does not use it in everyday life.

So i stated they use it in academia or in a relevant work enviroment . Very few use it as a general moniker outside of these two specific enviroments.

Wow i am impressed you went out with someone who had a Phd.

My wife is a Dr with both a medical doctorate and and a Phd doctorate. If you insist maybe i will start introducing my wife as Doctor doctor. All the other Phd's i know do not use the title Dr except in very specific circumstances. When doing a CV for a job, publictations, lecturing / training. When applying for a bank loan or signing a court statement. NOt one of them ever uses it when booking a plane ticket to avoid being collared at 30,000 feet with a medical emergency.

If you look at etiquette in Britain very very few with Phds use the title doctor outside of specific enviroments as a i said academia or WORK . a quick google search would show this. ( outside of the Uk it is very different ie in mainland euprope and the US).

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member1642No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So to sum up, Koukash thinks Noble is gash at his existing job, but is simultaneously THE best man on the planet for this new job. Why, he's even better than some world renowned rugby league god who is a household name but would still only be second best to Noble.

It makes perfect sense to me.'"

Yes. That absolutely [imust[/i be it.

Another way of looking at it is that during the process of freshening up the coaching staff - a process which involved speaking to Iestyn Harris with a view to him becoming assistant to Brian Noble - Marwan realised that Nobby's skills and experience could be better employed in a much broader role within the club, a role similar to that previously occupied by Graham Lowe, but with a broader remit.

He views this role as essential and so, as any competent businessman would, has a contingency plan in place in case Nobby declines the offer. The Manchester Evening News has speculated that this involves Tim Sheens.

Doesn't sound quite so daft when you express it that way, does it?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



You may all bow down and call me Lord.

Anyone asking how I earned the title, it was by the due process of winning a game of Catan.

I will allow the unwashed to stoop to using Sir, if they cannot remember which title I wish to bistow upon myself tomorrow.

Personally I like the title 'The Good Dr.' I think he should copyright it before some other upstart tries to pinch it like they did his name on twitter.

84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
84 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.9228515625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40789
11m
Film game
Boss Hog
5732
13m
Salford
karetaker
52
29m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
BP1
4039
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
Recent
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
39s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
42s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
47s
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
1m
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
2m
2025 Shirt
Warrior Wing
20
3m
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
4m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
5m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1027
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
635
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1360
England's Women Demolish The W..
1185
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1426
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1209
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1470
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2214
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2458
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2023
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2265
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2731
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2156
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2233