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fair enough, as in 'most' i meant most that i had seen post things.
i don't mind saints if im honest and hope browny does a good job, you certainly have some cracking young players coming through,which can surely only benefit the national team.

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Quote: meast "fair enough, as in 'most' i meant most that i had seen post things.
i don't mind saints if im honest and hope browny does a good job, you certainly have some cracking young players coming through,which can surely only benefit the national team.'"


There's about 50 regular posters on RLFANS who are Saints fans. We have 10k fans who go the game. Go figure.

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Quote: meast "fair enough, as in 'most' i meant most that i had seen post things.
i don't mind saints if im honest and hope browny does a good job, you certainly have some cracking young players coming through,which can surely only benefit the national team.'"


I will openly admit that midway through last year I was questioning browns appointment. We had injuries yes, but we were playing some truly dire rugby. In the second half of the year, I am happy to eat humble pie on the matter, and were playing some truly fabulous rugby. He still has his moments (in retrospect it probably would of been wiser to stick with the more experienced players in lms and laffranchi over greenwood and walker on a wider pitch, but equally I was very happy to see greenwood play, as I'm a big fan)

Never doubted the players we had/ have - but our recruitment this year has to be up with some of the best

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Quote: meast "is the same team, players and coaches that most saints wanted shut of last year because they weren't winning regularly?
must admit i have been very impressed with saints so far this season but the fickleness of some saints fans is unbelievable'"

God, we were awful at times last year. Not just losing, but looking completely clueless and toothless.

The hope was, as I alluded to at times, that Brown had written the season off before it began and assigned it to experimenting with his players and moving away from an old, ineffective playbook in order to establish a whole new approach - essentially breaking us right down to build us up from scratch in a better mould.

Fingers crossed, it looks like that could have been what's happened, but god, it was hard to take at times.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "God, we were awful at times last year. Not just losing, but looking completely clueless and toothless.

The hope was, as I alluded to at times, that Brown had written the season off before it began and assigned it to experimenting with his players and moving away from an old, ineffective playbook in order to establish a whole new approach - essentially breaking us right down to build us up from scratch in a better mould.

Fingers crossed, it looks like that could have been what's happened, but god, it was hard to take at times.'"


We looked dire but only because (and I said this at the time) Brown was in the process of trying to have the squad playing his brand of rugby after years of stale up-the-jumper stuff. It was more apparent as the year went on that the team was growing into Brown's methods and structures. I was embarrassed by the fans (a large number of them) calling for his head like fickle soccer fans.

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We'll have to play a lot better than we did yesterday if we want to collect any silverware this season - Brown was spot on in saying we saved up our worst performance for the biggest game and we were lucky to pull through.

Having said that, it was a Leeds-esque performance where sheer will to win got us there in the end. We've been missing that sort of steel in recent years (together with someone who can kick goals - Walsh had a poor day with the boot but managed to knock one over from the touchline and drop the goal when the pressure was really on).

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Most Saints fans are not thinking we are going to win the lot this year but just glad we are back to able to compete for honours in Superleague for a change, as the last 4 years has been average to say the least

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Saints would be my tip for honours this season. However, every team has purple patches and injury problems throughout the season, so nothing's ever certain. It's the ability to overcome those obstacles that single out the winning teams. There's quite a few teams that can upset the top four if they are not on their game. More than in previous seasons imo. I don't think current form will equate to finishing form come the end of the season, it rarely has done in the past. Should be interesting to see how things pan out.

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I do find it funny that people are using the OP as an example of Saints fans being the big I am.

When the OP ain't a Saints fan.

You are more than welcome to come to visit the Saints board, where you will find Saddened who backs against us every match, several people (me included) who think Lance has had 1 (maybe 2) good games in 3 years. Where people want to play all youth, were people want Wellens out, where people want Wellens in.

We are as mixed a bunch as anyone. I think most feel we are in with a real chance this year. Last year was not aweful, but it did have a large experimental value to it which bothered a lot of people who pay week in week out to see players just being moved about for the sake of it. Also playing with no halfs for 2 years was a strategic mistake by the club.

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I'll be happy for them to be grand final winners, if we can't (some hope there I know), but I'd rather someone else won the challenge cup as I think their win at Huddersfield was an early Christmas present from Bentham.

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Quote: Hessle Roader "I'll be happy for them to be grand final winners, if we can't (some hope there I know), but I'd rather someone else won the challenge cup as I think their win at Huddersfield was an early Christmas present from Bentham.'"


I'm sure they'll be thrilled to know you have OKed them to win the GF d040.gif

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What I'm genuinely interested to see is what will happen when the going gets tough? The Easter period plagued the Giants under Nathan Brown for multiple reasons. Paul Anderson showed last season that it wasn't entirely down to the team; Nathan Brown really struggled to turn the team around when they went into a slump. In three of the four seasons he started in charge it wasn't unfamiliar to see the Giants contending at the top going into May.

I firmly believe at this point that he is an excellent coach and will have learnt masses from his experience at the Giants, but it still remains to be seen if he can turn around a good team in a slump.

As for the Giants and Paul Anderson the same applies: can he pull a team, in a bit of a slump, struggling for any consistency out of it and get them playing well. I think yesterday they showed they can play well for periods, they just need to get the consistency back and that does fall to the coach.

I may have gone off at a tangent here….

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I think we will do ok, but you never know. We were more convincing with half a team out against an in form Leeds side, than we were with a full team against a stuttering Huddersfield side.

I was pretty convinced with 20 to go we were not going to pull off a win. The Ferres audition for WrestleMania changed our chances dramatically.

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Quote: LeedsDave "I'm sure they'll be thrilled to know you have OKed them to win the GF

You obviously can't read very well. I did say if we can't. In fact I'd sooner anyone other than you won it. Happy now??

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Were riding our luck so far this season but we've had no easy games over the last 4 weeks with Wigan,Widnes & Leeds still to come

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