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If you think out of the box I am sure certain things could be bet on. First scrum. First penalty First knock on etc etc. it's not all about scores and cards from the ref. If you are the one who kicks off you can easily kick the ball dead from ko. This first penalty. A prop who is often first receiver from ko can knock on.
Equally as each game now has a visible clock you could transgress at a particular time. By saying its difficult to do is potentially denying it can occur.

The Asian market may well be an area that does not know about RL but equally that doesn't mean it wouldn't appeal.
I do agree though that the rewards might not be so great as football but it's all relative at the end of the day.

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Quote: retirethename "I appreciate you are trying to be funny, but this post is disgraceful. I am no lawyer but I would suggest this is close to liable. So if a mod won't take it off I suggested you do.'"


Libel is quite close to liable.

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ALL WIGAN SUPPORTERS MUST 1. Wigan must not win a hard fought struggle in appalling conditions, nilling the opposition and scoring 16 points, because that makes for the worst CC Final of all time. 2. Wigan must not get to the final by nilling the opposition and scoring 70 points with a display of attacking rugby because that makes for the worst CC Semi Final of all time. 3. Wigan players must not consider winning the game but devote all their efforts to entertaining neutral fans. Just like all the other teams do... 4. Wigan fans must not mention winning the CC Final, as that is arrogant. 5. Wigan fans must not mention winning the Challenge Cup 19 times, or indeed any other Trophies, as that is very arrogant indeed. 6. Wigan fans must not attend actual games. It is now compulsory to stay at home, watch on TV and moan about how low attendances at games are.:



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Quote: LeedsDave ""Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."'"


This scenario relies too heavily on the ref actually spotting anything.'"


... He's referring to the last play of the WC semi final'"


My mate Kev did that in the final league match of the 2005 season cost us two points git.

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Quote: ISpeaksProperEnglish "My mate Kev did that in the final league match of the 2005 season cost us two points git.'"


And then did he suddenly buy a new sports car in the close season ??????

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I think the refs would be the easiest area for this sort of thing.

"10 penalties per half ref, worth a few bob if you do it"

"Send someone to the bin in the first half, buy you a pint"

"penalise the Dragons for being French, you'll be a hero in Heckmondwike"

Footy refs have have been caught doing this sort of thing (although if my memory serves me right Brian Clough was furious that Nottingham Forest got the rough end of an Anderlecht stick due to a ref and there have been a couple in recent years with dodgy pens being awarded with a German ref getting a life ban IIRC). Wonder if our refs could be tempted? Here that the badger's arms in Oldham does a rather good pint for those who could help secure SL status to the town's team.

For the benefit of retiretthename, other than the bit about the footy refs this is all very tongue in cheek, don't shout at me.

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ALL WIGAN SUPPORTERS MUST 1. Wigan must not win a hard fought struggle in appalling conditions, nilling the opposition and scoring 16 points, because that makes for the worst CC Final of all time. 2. Wigan must not get to the final by nilling the opposition and scoring 70 points with a display of attacking rugby because that makes for the worst CC Semi Final of all time. 3. Wigan players must not consider winning the game but devote all their efforts to entertaining neutral fans. Just like all the other teams do... 4. Wigan fans must not mention winning the CC Final, as that is arrogant. 5. Wigan fans must not mention winning the Challenge Cup 19 times, or indeed any other Trophies, as that is very arrogant indeed. 6. Wigan fans must not attend actual games. It is now compulsory to stay at home, watch on TV and moan about how low attendances at games are.:



Quote: shinymcshine "And then did he suddenly buy a new sports car in the close season ??????'"


No, he did buy a round though.

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I had to lay out a few Euros but I wasn't complaining when my 1000/1 shot at someone scoring on the seventh tackle came off.

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Most obvious one to do easily is kick off over back line on full from kickoff.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Graham Richards "Firstly I note we are one of the 5 major sports in the UK. I digress.'"

I think you'll find you added the 'THE", so you were actually making something up other than simply digressing.
Quote: Graham Richards "Senior figures from five major sports '"

Quote: Graham Richards "It would be difficult, but not impossible, for a single player to manipulate certain milestones in the match (such as score, first penalty etc) '"

anyone investigate strange betting patterns in regards to the Fiji v Kangaroos game in Pool play at RLWC 2013?

Quote: Graham Richards ""Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."'"

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It's already happened..
Just google 'Ryan Tandy betting scandal'

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Until unlicensed bookmakers in Asia show an interest in Rugby League this won't be a problem.

Bookmakers love football, it's such an unpredictable sport, I cannot see why unlicensed bookies in Asia would touch RL the margins are much lower than football margins.

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Quote: gutterfax "I think you'll find you added the 'THE", so you were actually making something up other than simply digressing.
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It was simple English (might be lost on you I don't know).
There was (as is now the case) a delegation from major sports that attended the meeting. RL was one of the 5 that attended.
I put no emphasis on the "the" at all. It was simple English. "RL was one of the five" not "RL was one of [iTHE[/i five" how you wish to read it is up to you but don't try scoring any bonus points at my expense. I simply put I digress as it was not an issue for discussion. HTH.

As for the rest of the thread, I feel that to state that we are not known in the Asian market is to turn a blind eye. As things tighten up with one sport other avenues have to be explored. Its clearly very lucrative so all avenues will be looked at as a source of income, if you are one of the organisers. Lets hope it doesn't effect RL but we have to be prepared for all eventualities.

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Quote: casben "What about drop goals? either how many or first score is a drop goal?????'"


Ask Sean long about that!

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There have been betting coups in the past regarding drop goals being the first scoring play in both codes of Rugby. Martin Offiah kicked one. I'm not saying that particular score involved a bet. I know a touch was landed by a Celtic nation's fans in the five nations a few years back.
Nothing crooked about that. Bookies prices have temptingly rated the likelihood of a drop goal as high as 66/1 or was it 33/1? against 7/4 for a penalty, 11/4 the try etc.
Handicap betting (where the bookies set the amount team a starts with and the amount team b needs to win by to beat it.) means people can attack /defend accordingly to land a bet at close to evens (10/11) .

I've no evidence that a struggling side has seen it's handicap and bet against themselves or that a winning team has backed themselves to beat a forecast winning margin.
Given the dire financial condition of some clubs in the game perhaps there are elements which may make certain individuals vulnerable and of course there is greed.
There are guidelines in place to discourage people directly involved in the game stepping out of line, but it would be highly naive to think it doesnt happen anymore or wont happen again as it has of course happened and will again, it is human nature.

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What are peoples views on rugby league players betting on other rugby league games that they are not invovled in? Should it be banned?

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