It's certainly the best squad we've had available this tournament. We need to fire for the full 80 mins tomorrow to show we're progressing. There aren't any excuses now. The lads have blown away the cobwebs and showed some good form in patches so we now need to sustain that for longer.

It's all systems go for a good crack at the Kiwis at Wembley if we can do that.

I'd go with:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Leroy Cudjoe
5. Ryan Hall
6. Rangi Chase
7. Kevin Sinfield
8. Chris Hill
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Brett Ferres
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. James Graham
15. George Burgess
16. Liam Farrell
17. Rob Burrow

Similar sort of set up to last week, spell O'Loughlin and westwood and move burgess into the back row. I don't want us to become overly reliant on Sam Burgess so I'd still run with 4 props, that also gives you an opportunity to keep all of the pack fresh. Burrow over McIlorum, let him run the tired frenchies ragged off the bench.

Looks like everyone is on the same page as far as team selection goes.
Just a few different opinions on who starts.

I would keep Sam as a prop

Would have preferred Ablett over McIlorum in the 19 as it would have given us a player who can switch to centre if we get any backs issues.

Could be that McIlorum has made the 19 because Burrow is the one slight injury concern with his head injury from last week.

I'd keep Sam Burgess at starting prop and move him to loose later as O'Loughlin still finding full match fitness. The one question for me would be who starts in the other starting prop spot. Have to think ahead to which props will be on when you introduce Burrow and which will be the best ones to have on and how many minutes they'll have done by that point.

Tomkins
Briscoe/Charnley - both equally good
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Chase
Sinfield
Hill
Roby
Graham
S Burgess
Ferres
O'Loughlin

G Burgess
Westwood
Ablett
Burrow

Anyone who doesn't more than hold their own against France doesn't deserve to progress. I think Ablett is the only question mark but is preferable over a lightweight Farrell. If Crabtree had been picked ahead of another lightweight, Mossop, he would be in there instead of Ablett, with Westwood having to cover the backs.

I know you seem to want as few Wigan players in the squad as possible but Charnley, McIlorum, Farrell and Mossop are in this week's 19, at least 2 of them will play. Briscoe and Ablett are not in the squad, they won't.

Farrell showed enough for me that he should be on the bench ahead of Ablett.

I realise that, it is more a 'who would you pick' thread. I have nothing against the Wigan team, it's your inbred message board I dislike, my only wish is to see England beat win a WC or Beat the Aussies in a series. I would happily have Tomkins, O'L & Charnely in any England team, though I think Charnley is behind Briscoe at the moment despite being the best winger in SL last season. I have never changed my view, which has been proven in this WC IMO, that McIlorum is a flat track one-dimensional bully, Farrell is just too small for an international back row & Mossop has never done anything of note even at SL level apart from coming in third man in a brawl against Saints, belting someone from behind & running away.

Me too, I think he's far more effective from there

The only thing that changes in relation to Sam Burgess wearing 8 or 13 is who else gets picked around him.

Doesn't change Sam's game one iota IMO.

I just think he gets more involved at 8. Granted I've only seen him play for England though

No dislike there then! Ha.

You said Briscoe and Charnley are equally as good in your team selection, why the change of stance? And how exactly has Briscoe proved he's better then Charnley? He's had the two easier games to play in compared to Charnley and scored 2 in 2 compared to Charnleys 1 against the worlds best team (not his best game though).

As for the others McIlorum was immense against Huddersfield, Leeds and Wire in the play offs. Is that what you call 'flat track bullying'? Lee Mossop was also fantastic in the three games as well and played his way ahead of Crabtree during the play offs.

The only one I'll give you is Liam Farrell, I tend to agree that he's just not big enough for international rugby but I thought superleague rugby may be a push and he's outstanding.

We shouldn't be trying things at this stage, we pick our best 17.
Plus the fact for individual honours, each player will want to play so no one is going to accepts the, don't worry you are in next time speach. Hall, especially should play every game in the tournament.