Playing Winfield at 6 instead of widdop just about sums up England's chances. Why you would have your best half back on the bench beggars belief.

Amazed at graham, stupid idiot, thanks for reducing our chances of winning

Is O Loughlin injured or just not selected?

I'd like to see

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Widdop
Chase
Hill
Roby
Mossop
Westwood
S Burgess
Sinfield

Burrow
G Burgess
Ablett
T Burgess

Probably go along the lines of

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Sinfield
Chase
Hill
Roby
Mossop
Westwood
Ablett
S Burgess

Burrow/Widdop
G Burgess
T Burgess
Farrell/Ferres

Missing Hock, O'Loughlin and Graham weakens our pack massively.

On a plus side how good is it to see specialist centres and wingers playing in position? And as athletic and as dangerous as we've had for a while.

Gone are the days of Horne etc filling in.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Chase
8. Hill
9. Roby
10. Mossop
11. Westwood
12. Ablett
13. Burgess S

14. Widdop
15. Ferres
16. Burgess T
17. Burgess G

Ablett has more than enough quality for this team, don't worry.

Ablett is vastly underated by non Leeds fans.He always seems to be one of the stand out players in big games for us and steps up to the plate.I wouldnt have picked him in the starting 13 should everyone have been available, but am sure he will more than hold his own given the chance now.

Classic bench structure anyway:
Two props to give a four player rotation.
A versatile back row to split the minutes between the three/four players in that role. Someone who can also play centre if an injury to a back forces it.
A halfback who can come on to enable a change in the style of halfbacks, or put some zip and energy into the acting half role.

Bring it on.

Goulding should be playing alongside Charnley, they have a fantastic partnership, another laughable decision by Englands coach not to pick him in the squad.

As much as I believe they should be punished for discipline issues, is this the correct way to go about it? We need James Graham in our pack. Barring that, I'm over the moon there's no Rangi Chase. Gareth Widdop can finally start and show what he can do.

Why not just pick all the english wigan players because of their understanding?

Watkins is a better centre than goulding.

Correct. Watkins is one of the first names on the sheet.

It's exactly how you should punish them.

If they play then what's the message? If they want to play in the tournament then they have to stick to the rules then the rest of the squad are - simple.

There are some givens in this squad
1,2, 5 and 9 are guarenteed places
All the props have to play, and I wouldn't have both Burgess twins on the bench together so one has to start.
Sinfield has to play
Sam Burgess has to play
Westwood should start

So that leaves a choice of Watkins, Cudjoe or Ablett in the centre
and Ferris, Farrell and Ablett for the SR
With a choice of Sinfield, Chase and Widdop for 6 and 7 depending on whether Sinfield is 13

With limited pack now, I would go with Sinfield at 13
Start Widdup with Chase and have Burrow on the bench

So we put ourselves even more on the back-foot for winning the competition by not playing our best players?