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| Quote: craigizzard "Can we have Jennings and Cherry-Evans then?'"
I like your thinking.
It's only fair.
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| i believe only one player out of that 17 actually played in the semi finals...not bad for a team of mid table aussies
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| Quote: craigizzard "Can we have Jennings and Cherry-Evans then?'"
If they gave us Cherry-Evans i still believe Mac would select Sinfield and Chase in the halves.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Australian Kangaroos Head Coach, Tim Sheens has named his side which will take on England in the first match ofthe 2013 Rugby League World Cup.
Robbie Farah has beaten Daly Cherry-Evans for the utility bench spot, meanwhile Andrew Fifita will make his debut in the green and gold.
Match Details1. Billy Slater
2. Brett Morris
3. Brent Tate
4. Greg Inglis
5. Darius Boyd
6. Johnathan Thurston
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Matt Scott
9. Cameron Smith ©
10. James Tamou
11. Greg Bird
12. Sam Thaiday
13. Paul Gallen (vc)
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Interchange14. Robbie Farah
15. Andrew Fifita
16. Luke Lewis
17. Corey Parker[/i'"
I have been watching Australian teams come to these shores since 1986, I am sure many posters have seen more than me. If I were to look at this team and then think which players would make a 17 made up of the best Aussies I have seen only three of them would come close
Billy Slater is probably the best Australian full back I have seen but he prone to real calamitous errors
Cam Smith is the best hooker I have seen play for Australia
Greg Inglis is a fantastic player and would probably get into a Dunbar best ever Australian 17… although centre would be hugely competitive with the likes of Meninga and Miles to name just two
Of the rest, I can honestly say that they wouldn’t get near a best 17
Yes, Thurston is good but not when he is next to Lewis, Kenny or Lockyer
Cronk is good but he is no Andrew Johns
The wingers are solid but remember when we used to see Sailor, Tuqiri (at his best) and Folau named on the wings – now those were scary names
I could go on but the bottom line is that team is very beatable. I hope that the English team see it even if the fans don’t
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| Quote: Dunbar "I have been watching Australian teams come to these shores since 1986, I am sure many posters have seen more than me. If I were to look at this team and then think which players would make a 17 made up of the best Aussies I have seen only three of them would come close
Billy Slater is probably the best Australian full back I have seen but he prone to real calamitous errors
Cam Smith is the best hooker I have seen play for Australia
Greg Inglis is a fantastic player and would probably get into a Dunbar best ever Australian 17… although centre would be hugely competitive with the likes of Meninga and Miles to name just two
Of the rest, I can honestly say that they wouldn’t get near a best 17
Yes, Thurston is good but not when he is next to Lewis, Kenny or Lockyer
Cronk is good but he is no Andrew Johns
The wingers are solid but remember when we used to see Sailor, Tuqiri (at his best) and Folau named on the wings – now those were scary names
I could go on but the bottom line is that team is very beatable. I hope that the English team see it even if the fans don’t'"
Yes, but Australia probably will only be beaten by New Zealand.
As for Thurston he is probably one of the five best players in the world today, along wth Inglis, Smith, Slater ad SBW.
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| Is Jennings injured then?
And is Brent Tate really the third best aussie centre available? For all the flair on show in the NRL he seems decidedly average.
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| We need to stop this professionalism stuff that's in evidence in SL and start a fight in the first 5 minutes. Send one of the Burgii to tvvat Thurston straight away, then the whole pack goes in.
The Aussies are superb, but just like the Germans, they don't like it up em.
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| As great as the Aussies are, that team isn’t unbeatable. Of course they are favourites but there are weaknesses.
You swap the name of that team for England and we would be seeing people complaining that we have a full back on the wing, and a fullback in the centre being played out of position. That we have an out and out 13 playing in the 2nd row to fit in a prop playing at 13. That Luke Lewis is a jack of all trades master of none.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "As for Thurston he is probably one of the five best players in the world today, along wth Inglis, Smith, Slater ad SBW.'"
Thanks for that... not really anything to do with my post but thanks anyway
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| Quote: Him "We need to stop this professionalism stuff that's in evidence in SL and start a fight in the first 5 minutes. Send one of the Burgii to tvvat Thurston straight away, then the whole pack goes in.
The Aussies are superb, but just like the Germans, they don't like it up em.'"
Im not sure id quite go along with that but every Australian high tackle, every bit of foul play needs the forwards in and about, pushing and shoving. If an ocker swings a punch, two or three swinging back at him straight away. If you are grabbed round the neck, he is punched in the head before has time to think. If they are laying on and slowing the tackle, throw them off, get in their face and get them worrying, get them thinking.
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| Quote: Him "We need to stop this professionalism stuff that's in evidence in SL and start a fight in the first 5 minutes. Send one of the Burgii to tvvat Thurston straight away, then the whole pack goes in.
The Aussies are superb, but just like the Germans, they don't like it up em.'"
I've gone from thinking "oh sheite" from the first post, to thinking there's actually a chance if England go hell for leather. Get yourself doing the team talk pre match (along with Wacko from Mike Bassett, obviously).
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| That's not the strongest OZ line up I've seen. As another poster said,
Compare it to the other OZ teams, it's not as good IMHO
(Could still have the potential to post 50+) passed us though.
We're much stronger in the backs than 5 years ago. We had Welllens at fill back and Gardner and Smith on the wing.
This time we have Tomkins/Charnley/Hall.
We have a lot of speed and size in the pack. Trouble is can our half backs use them.
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| The biff is an ancient tactic now.
Don't like it up 'em? Do you not watch SOO? They seem to be able to handle themselves there.
Hard fast skillful rugby will win.
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Quote: SmokeyTA "Quote: SmokeyTA "We need to stop this professionalism stuff that's in evidence in SL and start a fight in the first 5 minutes. Send one of the Burgii to tvvat Thurston straight away, then the whole pack goes in.
The Aussies are superb, but just like the Germans, they don't like it up em.'"
I've gone from thinking "oh sheite" from the first post, to thinking there's actually a chance if England go hell for leather. Get yourself doing the team talk pre match (along with Wacko from Mike Bassett, obviously).'"
It's just always appeared to me that the times we've been at our best against the Aussies, when we've either won or given them a good game, our pack has stood up to them. And like Smokey says, don't take anything from them. Peacock standing up against Mason, Sculthorpe & Fitzgibbon, Morley's 12 seconds, Edwards sending off, McDermott and...well pretty much anyone. Also, whenever we start giving the Aussies a game they start niggling and getting aggressive. So let's be the aggressive ones first and don't let them settle.
If we lose from giving away too many penalties for hitting an Aussie then I don't mind. It's when we go down with a whimper that it annoys me.
I've no idea why punching an Aussie should be a penalty anyway. Ridiculous rule.
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| Quote: Him "I've no idea why punching an Aussie should be a penalty anyway. Ridiculous rule.'"
It should be actively encouraged IMHO.
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