Got to disagree with parts of that, when he's on form he's devastating and could have caused Australia a lot of problems, sadly his head just isn't right at times and he's rightly been booted out the camp.

Ferres is a more than able replacement so were well covered.

How many chances does he deserve.

I think he is an amazing talent and when he's got his head screwed on and playing at his best he is up there with the best in the world imo. Unfortunately his lack of a brain has led to him missing out on so much. He's lost out on Wigans last 2 Challenge cup and Super League victorys mainly through suspension and now got kicked out of a World Cup Squad. I'd be amazed if his deal with salford doesn't fall through.

So nobody has heard anything about what might have gone on here?

We'll, what do you think? Just look at his past record.

Won't be the first prodigious physical talent in rugby league to have a head filled with gruyere cheese.

Real shame, but sometimes you just can't force the horse to drink, no matter how much it needs to.

i doubt you will, as usual it will likely be kept in house.

What's he done then?

I don't think they're keen on speculation on here. Anyone who has an inkling PM.

All of that was dealt with very diplomatically.. but (having gone throuogh the Aussie visa application process) I am convinced any application from Hock would have been thrown out!


this klastest escapade MUST be construed by the game as 'bringing the game into disrepute'

punishment?

my view would be a 10,000 pound fine.. (mostly to cover the costs and expenses given to Hock during his England stint...) his international record expunged, 2,000 hours community, charity work and a playing suspension until all the above criteria fulfilled!

Seems odd that all rumours included several players, and yet only Hock gets punished (for now). Scapegoat? Or instigator?
I'd still like to know a bit more detail, but as others have suggested, we'll probably never know.

Just on the ale on sat night after the match. Squad were on a drinking ban. Anything else he may do after a beer no surprise eithe

Looks like the only thing you missed off is being hung drawn and quartered.

Courtesy Harrigan total rl:

So, the info I have received today is that...

This morning, Hocks room was found smashed up. Hock, Hardaker, Graham were all named to me and had all been ejected from the squad.

Then, McIlorums name was out in the fold. This is when I put it vaguly (much to everyone's frustrations) on here.

About 2 hours ago I was told only Hock had gone and the others would have no part to play in Saturdays game, although I agree, only Graham was a cert.

"It is not drink related, something else"

Now the above made me think what you are all thinking right now, but I'm going to say he's not seriously that dumb and my second thought was fighting, which was also suggested on here later on.

The reason I believe that is because the others would be out too if it was what you all thought straight away after reading that quote.

Sorry for not sharing earlier though. I promised not to give details, just that something was happening.

Wouldn't make sense to pick Hock as the scapegoat. He, like Graham, seem certain starters. Why wouldn't you make it Hardaker instead who is unlikely to play unless Tomkins is injured if the others were guilty too.

do you think I am being unreasonable, given his appalling record?

Particularly as this is the biggest stage in world rugby league at the eleventh hour before the competition starts. I dont wish the man physical harm (therefore no hanging, drawing and quartering), but he has been allowed so many 'second chances'